Hello Laura and Maria,

Thank you both very much for the explanation.  I get it!  It would be 
interesting to know why this happens.  You are right.  There were a lot of 
emails I thought I deleted.  Freed up much database space.  Thanks again.

Sam

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "laura wolk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:24:40 -0500 (EST)
>Subject: re: [Braillenote] ghost email in keysoft 6.1

>Hi Sam and others:

>I will attempt to give you steps as to how to clean out these email.  In doing 
>so, you will be able to see which type of ghost email I am referring to.

>1.  From the main menu, press a to enter the address list.  Press s to enter 
>the keylist set up options, and s yet again to select a keylist file.

>2.  Press backspace, because the default drive given is keylist.  Pressing 
>backspace will allow you to choose a different drive.  Choose keymail, and 
>choose the email folders.cdb file.

>3.  You will now be returned to the keylist setup menu, so press space with e 
>(escape) to exit back to the main keylist menu.  Press l to look up an 
>"address".  You will be told to "please wait" as the databases change.  This 
>process can take anywhere from 1 to 15 minutes, in my experience, depending on 
>how large your database currently is.  Do not turn off your unit, do not reset 
>your unit, do not do anything to your until until the process has completed 
>itself.

>4.  You will now be placed on the "selection list" for an email message, which 
>resembles the "selection list" for an address, except that instead of 
>displaying first name, last name, etc, you ine presented with "to, from, 
>subject", etc.

>5.  Navigate to the date index field, which is the ninth field, and press 
>enter.  After a few seconds, you will be placed at the top of the database 
>selection list by date index, so you will see something like Thursday, 
>December 23, 2004.  Press space with dots 4,5,6 (read with b) to go to the 
>very bottom of your database.  You will now notice that the date index field 
>is now blank.  These, my fellow friends, are the mysterious ghost email.  To 
>see what I mean, navigate to the "body" field of this message, and press 
>enter.  You will either see ?----comoriginal message----" followed by the 
>contents of a message that, most likely, you've deleted long ago.

>6.  You can now navigate back to the blank date index field and delete these 
>messages by pressing backspace with dots 2,3,5,6 (control with 8, possibly) 
>and confirming with yes.  As long as the date index field is blank, you can 
>rest assure that these are these silly accumulating ghost email.

>Note: when you return to keymail and attempt to write a message or read from 
>any folders, including the inbox, you will again be presented with "please 
>wait", followed by another possibly substantial waiting period.  Again, do not 
>press reset or turn the unit off while this process is occurring.  I would 
>also recommend that you free database space, just to see how much space you've 
>gained by cleaning all of these out.

>I hope this has helped you all some.  I highly recommend doing this, as you 
>can fee up quite a substantial amount of space.

>>------ original message ------
>>from: sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: re: [Braillenote] ghost email in keysoft 6.1

>>Hello Laura,

>>Although I am not Pulsedata, I was wondering if you could tell me what ghost 
>>email you were talking about?  Do you mean the email attachments that you can 
>>get to by going by way of your directory to email folders and then to your 
>>attachment folder?  I know that there are attachments that get stored there 
>>if they are not properly deleted from your email.  I was just curious, 
>>because I was trying to find the place about which you were speaking.  Thanks 
>>in advance for the answer.

>>Sam

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "laura wolk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:46:14 -0500 (EST)
>>>Subject: [Braillenote] ghost email in keysoft 6.1

>>>I am wondering if the problem with ghost email that accumulate in the email 
>>>folders.cdb database and have to be cleared manually will still occur in 
>>>6.1? I am not speaking of how sometimes a user will be notified that she has 
>>>email in the outbox when they really do not exist.  Rather, I am referring 
>>>to the blank or messages that only contain the "original" message of some 
>>>far forgotten email that appear in the email folders database.  Currently, a 
>>>user has to open this database in keylist and clear them out herself 
>>>(assuming she even knows that this is a problem because, once again, it is 
>>>not documented in the manual).

>>>I haven't done this in awhile, and have just cleared out 25 such messages 
>>>from my db, freeing up about 800,000 kb in the database.  I am wondering if 
>>>the new keymail structure will fix this issue, or, at the very least, if PDI 
>>>will give their users the consideration of notifying them with steps to 
>>>clear them out themselves.

>>>Thank you, Laura


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