Please change the topic!!!! Reading opinions about off topic stuff is
getting extremely annoying!  If there is a list monitor, please tell us
how we can clean up this list and keep it on topic; if people want to
carry on their private conversations, please take it off list; some of
us don't have time to be mislead by subjects on messages.  The list is
intended as a customer/user technical assistance to each other, and I'm
about to get off the list if the abuse of the free space continues.
Monitor, please advise!  Thanks.   

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sabahattin
Gucukoglu
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:51 PM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] BN PK re missing files and E-mail problems

Hi Don,

On 4 Aug 2004 at 15:19, Don Bishop <[email protected]>
spoke, thus:

> I was definitely being sarcastic.  I've been on this list for over 3
years
> and maybe that's just too long.  But, time and time again, I hear
people
> wishing the bn could do all sorts of things which are really beyond
the
> capability of a notetaker or pda.  They seem to think it should be
able to
> be a replacement for their pc and it isn't.  

That depends on the features in question.  I don't suggest that you are 
wrong, necessarily, but the point of my last message was to emphasise
the 
need to concentrate on fixing existing bugs that are - time and time
again 
and without any real justification - popping up again and again on this 
list.  It is too much for me that if anyone searched the archives they 
would probably find at least ten copies of the answer they are seeking.
I 
have that archive, right here, easily accessible as a mail folder which
I 
imported from the MBOX which is downloadable from the list page.  I am 
seeing the same stuff, over and over again: PackMate vs Braillenote, why

the translator doesn't work like x, why the email program isn't doing y,

why this and that error occurred when saving a document.

Given the recent discussion about the incidental file erasures and the
so-
called "Email overload", these are problems which I can see a number of 
ways of fixing, and which don't require any change of hardware at all.  
They require only a change of software and a change of attitude, and 
possibly a change of release cycles.  It is these sort of fixes, if 
anything, that need attention now rather than later, and certainly
before 
implementing any new features (when the SDK becomes available, that will

be the community's responsibility).

> The bn is a great device and getting even better, but a pc it will
never
> be, certainly not with the current hardware configuration.  

A handheld is never a PC, whatever its configuration.  But, and I say
this 
with some regret, I can see myself alone with the competition and 
surviving without a PC and simply cannot see the same for the
BrailleNote. 
 Why?  Because the email program is, from where I am, useless.  The 
competition has the industry, mainstream advantage.  Yes, I agree with
you 
that the BrailleNote is an excellent device and generally does what it 
does do well, exceptionally well.  I am looking forward to all the new 
features, as well as some fixes.  But there are much-needed improvements

in programs that are already there.  Those improvements must come first!

> But, this keeps coming up time and time again, and I really do wonder
> sometimes  if people really do realize just what the capabilities and
> limitations are of the device they're purchasing.  

>From a technical viewpoint, the BrailleNote is a small computer.  It
has a 
CPU, some storage modules, controllers for operating various devices,
and 
so on.  Theoretically, that little BrailleNote can do anything, albeit 
slowly.  People out there have taken the trouble to port a version of
UNIX 
to varying numbers of handhelds, and use them for doing everything from 
web browsing to developing programs.  I aint kidding you here.  There
are 
two things you see differently: first, PulseData has already decided
what 
you can and cannot do.  Secondly, the operating system you are running
and 
mainstream programs are not visible to you directly.  The first point is
a 
matter of PulseData releasing its SDK and being better at squashing
bugs.  
The latter is a serious impairment.  This impairment justifies people's 
requests for media players, instant messaging programs, and everything 
else that a normal handheld owner can already do.  So, yes - a handheld
is 
a handheld.  But no - it can do more than PulseData decides it can do.
We 
are going off-topic for the message I sent, I don't want another
Packmate 
Vs BrailleNote discussion (yawn).  I just wanted to make it clear that 
PulseData's decisions have a big impact on its users, not the case for 
other devices, and that as such these problems must be addressed now.
It 
is not enough that we be expected to use buggy software whose three or 
four releases should have fixed most, if not all, outstanding problems
in 
them, particularly those which have been talked about often or which 
appear to be critical or grave.

[...]
> Sorry I even mentioned it.

No problem, here's a new twist for you if you haven't had it already.
And 
I'm pleased you were just being sarcastic!

Cheers,
Sabahattin

-- 
Thought for the day:
    Advertising (n): the science of arresting the human
    intelligence for long enough to get money from it.
           -- Stephen Leacock.


Sabahattin Gucukoglu
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