Thanks - I think the hose looks clean.

Over the course of the morning the situation has changed somewhat, the
safety valve is now constantly pushing out steam! So I think that the
pressurestat is the culprit. I'm going to read through the material
from Barry and report back.

Thanks!
David


On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Dennis Keating
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,  I keep a spare vacuum breaker valve (the shorter one, towards the
> back).  Although they can be serviced, they are only about $7. You should
> clean and descale it also.
> When my p-stat went bad, it made the safety valve release, as in your case.
> I know your hose wasn't the problem, but wanted you to check it for
> abrasion. The cover case will squish it against the edge of the boiler.
>
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barry Luterman
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Soft sound and steam - a cause for concern?
> That would be my guess. I will forward some info to you off list.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:23 AM, David Jacobs <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> OK, this just happened again (it happens about once an hour?) and it
>> was definitely what I am calling the safety valve - i.e. the large
>> valve that's closer to the front of the machine and is in the middle
>> of the picture above.
>>
>> So, I need to replace the p-stat ?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:42 PM, David Jacobs <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Thanks very much, everyone for the notes.
>> >
>> > The teflon hose does appear to be in good shape.
>> >
>> > There is some mineral build up on the relief valve, and with the
>> > casing off I have observed a couple occasions where the steam is
>> > released for 30-60 seconds. Is that normal? Along the inside back of
>> > the casing, you can also see where the some minerals have built up.
>> > Note I am referring to the "relief valve" as the smaller, lower, pin
>> > further towards the back right corner of the case. It's not
>> > immediately obvious to me (aside from Ben's description) how I would
>> > tell the difference between the relief valve and the safety valve
>> > (which is larger and closer to the front of the machine).
>> >
>> > I also want to respond to Barry's note: "Keep the cover off and watch
>> > if the water is being blown out of the safety valve from the boiler it
>> > is probably the p-stat" If I have, in fact, mixed up the relief valve
>> > and the safety valve, then this would be the case.
>> >
>> > I am going to continue to observe.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > David
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Ben McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi David,
>> >> My guess is that the steam vacuum breaker is letting out some steam.
>> >>  On the
>> >> top of the steam boiler, it's the small pin sticking straight up.
>> >> Basically, as the boiler cools, it opens downward to allow the vacuum
>> >> to
>> >> break.  On mine, that periodically builds up minerals and fails to
>> >> seal, and
>> >> I get a gentle hiss more or less all the time, but sometimes
>> >> intermittently.
>> >> Since you have the cover off already, you can remove it for cleaning
>> >> pretty
>> >> easily (when the machine is COLD, of course) and put it back.  I've
>> >> also
>> >> found that I can sometimes get away with blowing the minerals off by
>> >> depressing the pin on a hot machine with a well-protected hand or
>> >> implement
>> >> (you'll be releasing steam straight up, and it will burn you if you
>> >> don't
>> >> use a glove, etc.
>> >>
>> >> I would also note, however, that I've never had condensation on my
>> >> cups, so
>> >> perhaps you have a larger leak in the boiler somewhere else, or maybe
>> >> the
>> >> seal on this part has failed partially.
>> >>
>> >> HTH,
>> >> bmc
>> >> "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel....."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> From: David Jacobs <[email protected]>
>> >>> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
>> >>> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:56:23 -0400
>> >>> To: <[email protected]>
>> >>> Subject: Soft sound and steam - a cause for concern?
>> >>>
>> >>> I noticed this morning that my Brewtus was making a new sound, and the
>> >>> cups in the cup warmer were all covered in steam residue. I observed
>> >>> that every minute or so there was a soft sound coming from the machine
>> >>> - it sounded almost like water being let gently out of a balloon. The
>> >>> espresso shots were fine, however, and the temperature was mostly
>> >>> stable at 95 degrees. Right after the "release" sound, the temperature
>> >>> would drop to 93 and then quickly climb back to 95. I took the casing
>> >>> off of the Brewtus and didn't see anything immediately out of order,
>> >>> except perhaps that there was some buildup on on of the boilers
>> >>> (picture attached) and the insulation was worn down.
>> >>>
>> >>> Can someone help me diagnost this problem further, or should I simply
>> >>> not be concerned?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> David
>> >>>
>> >>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>>
>>
>>
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