well, sorry to waste everyone's time, but the seller seems to be
crazy.  he claims his 3 year old machine at $1400 ($1 more than a
refurbished one from WLL) with a 6 mo warranty is a better deal.  go
figure. i didn't even ask about the grinder, but i'm sure he wants
$800 for it ($1 more than a refurb from WLL)

thanks for the tips, as at least now i will consider the brewtus as an
upgrade option in the future.

-mike

On Jun 11, 8:29 am, TedO <[email protected]> wrote:
> That used Mazzer in good condition is worth a few hundred bucks so
> you'd still be getting a fair deal at $1600 for the whole enchilada.
> If you get it all for $1000, the seller got robbed.
> I never had a single prob w/ my BII in almost three years of regular
> use. As Ren sez, the nature of this mail group might lead to a
> perception of reliability problems. Reality is that BII is a low-
> volume production, high performance machine (the Ferrari of espresso?)
> so there are bound to be a few problems in the overall population and
> over time, WLL/Expobar have made changes to address the weaknesses.
> Following this group for the last few years, the vast majority of
> problems seem to be with the vibratory pump followed by miscellaneous
> electrical issues (power switch, wiring). If your seller has been
> using the machine lightly for the last three years, the vibratory pump
> made it past "infant mortality" and probably has a few more years
> before it reaches "wear out". Having heard of the power switch problem
> here, I adopted the recommendation to use a wall timer as my power
> switch to minimize wear.
> TedO
>
> On Jun 10, 10:08 am, itsallaroundyou <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > well, the "package" as it is now includes a mazzer mini electronic
> > type b and a bunch of accessories (bottomless pf, cups, pitchers,
> > tamper, etc.).  i don't really need the grinder (or most of the
> > accessories), but if the price is right, i will go for it.  my huge
> > hesitation is with the durability of expobar machines....seems like
> > everyone has some problem with them, but i'm hoping for a machine
> > that's a bit older, these kinks have already been worked out
>
> > i was hoping to spend $1000 plus shipping (which hopefully won't be
> > too bad).
>
> > thanks for the price points, they are a good reference.
>
> > On Jun 10, 6:10 am, TedO <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I sold an excellent condition 2+ yr old in April on eBay for $1450
> > > that included a Rocky Doserless, bottomless porta, and minor
> > > accessories. Bidding was active to the very end with several buyers.
> > > Subtracting the Rocky, I believe the current market is strong at
> > > $1200-1400 for very good/excellent condition.

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