Tim I think my original directions on descaling left the tubes in the clear
water for flushing out the citric acid. this works fine for the steam boiler
but takes many trials to flush the brew boiler. When flushing the brew
boiler it goes a lot faster to remove the tubes from the reservoir. drain
the brew boiler almost dry then replace the tubes to allow fresh water to
enter the brew boiler. It is still about a 4 hour process.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Tim <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hi Ira
> Thank you to Ben, Barry and you for taking the time to reply to my
> post.   First I removed the dispersion block and it was clean, good
> info on removing it and inspecting it. (I had a large blade stubby
> screwdriver that worked perfectly)  Next I removed the upper valve
> body and found a small amount of scale..  After replacing the valve
> body I had the problem of a leak thru the filter head after moving the
> lever to the neutral position (center position) .  A few actuations of
> the valve stopped this problem, I suspect a bit of loosened scale got
> under the valve seat.  Also the problem with pressure on the PF seems
> to have disappeared as well.  None the less I plan to order citric
> acid and follow Barry's directions for descaling the machine.  The
> only issue I have in regard to descaling is that I have plumbed in my
> machine.  I think I can overcome this by disconnecting from my water
> source and reconnecting to a jetflow pump I was previously using.
> Once again, thanks for the help
>
> Tim
>
> On Jul 24, 12:47 pm, Ira <[email protected]> wrote:
> > At 06:43 AM 7/24/2009, you wrote:I imagine Ira will chime in on how to
> open that part up and see what's
> > gotten in there, but I would stop using the machine in the meantime.  At
> > least be very careful and crack the PF open slowly to let off pressure
> > slowly.
> > Wow, I'm getting a reputation I see.
> > There are good exploded drawings of the group head on HB,
> http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-machines/e61-group-espresso-machine-detailed-interior-schematics-t397.html
> , which should let you see how it works.
> > I'd guess its the screen or dispersion block clogged with coffee or scale
> and not the inside of the group.
> > I'd start by removing the gasket, screen and dispersion block to see if
> the little holes there are clogging up. I think I used a giant flat washer
> in a vice-grips to unscrew the dispersion block. When you put it back,
> remember you want to be able to take it off again in the future, so just
> nice and snug, not tight.
> > Then, I'd pop off the big nut on top and and have a look at the mushroom
> to see if it needs descaling and then the bottom nut to see if it looks
> clean. Wrap the nut with tape so you don't scratch. I have a 36mm 3/4 drive
> socket and 24" breaker bar from my dad's Porsche days and the the nut came
> off like it was only finger tight. But remember, it's brass, so it's soft
> and easy to mar so I'd recommend a socket or box end wrench. You might also
> consider marking it so you know where to stop when putting it back on, it's
> really big but shouldn't be that tight.
> > Ira
> >
>

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