Ben, yes I'm talking about the 'new .9mm 4-hole tip from Chris'" and you're absolutely right. If you persuade it firmly it will go on. I didn't have to put a wrench on it, but it took a serious grip and twist bare-handed. Kinda scary to do it the first time. I was afraid I was stripping the threads on the arm, but it's fine and the old tip still threads fine too. THANKS! for all your research and information.
On Oct 28, 8:13 pm, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote: > Did you by chance mean the "new .9mm 4-hole tip" from Chris? If so, > it does indeed have a different thread, but you can use a wrench on it > the first time, and then it will go in and out by hand thereafter. > This does not change the fit of any other tips into the wand, and the > adapter still goes in and out easily as well for other tips. > > However, as mentioned in my original thread on tips, the 4 holes are > quite a bit larger than .9mm. I measure them as a very loose 1.143mm, > and a snug 1.219mm (these are the combinations of feeler gauges I have > available). So I'd call them 1.2mm. This may seem insignificant, but > the difference really noticeable. > At .9mm, the holes have a total area of 2.54mm^2 > At 1.2mm, the holes have a total area of 4.52mm^2 > > This is 177% of the .9 size. If you reference my original thread, > you'll see why this is too much hole for the machine to handle on a > sustained basis, although it's not bad for a single drink. I just > found the holes to be too big for really nice foam. > > Whoever asked, the hole size on the original B2 tip is a loose 1.448 > on mine, call it 1.5mm. > At 1.5mm, the area is 1.77mm^2 > Notice above that the 4-hole tip in question is more than double this > size in terms of hole area, and you will quickly see why it lives in > my drawer, and not on my machine. > > This gives you a really good starting point for what the machine can > handle on a sustained basis. Larger than about 2mm^2 will steam > really fast, but will deplete and overwhelm the boiler. Less than > about 1.5mm^2 will be really slow. Dividing up the area over smaller > holes will be slower but tighter foam. Larger holes will be faster > but harder to get good foam. The original tip is a good compromise > between the two, and the new tapered tip may well be an even better > compromise. > > Take care, > bmc > > There is one that > On Oct 28, 2009, at 5:33 PM, Dennis Keating wrote: > > > > > > > Bobcat, check with Chris , but I think the Vivaldi 4 hole tip is a > > different > > thread, and their adapter won't work . I am going to try out a tip > > from > > Taiwan that is modeled after the Isomac, but with three small holes. > > However, I only steam about 4 oz milk, so a bigger tip might be too > > frisky > > for that - just playing. So far, my fav is the Gold Pro 2 hole. > > > - Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf > > Of Bobcat > > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:32 PM > > To: Brewtus > > Subject: Re: Another steam tip > > > Thanks Dennis, I'll give them another try. Hopefully I won't end up > > with > > another one of the standard factory tips. That's what they sent me > > last > > time. Has anybody else ordered this pointy snout tip from WLL? > > Is the one pictured on their site what you received? > > > On Oct 27, 2:43 pm, "Dennis Keating" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> WLL > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> Behalf > > >> Of Bobcat > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:24 AM > >> To: Brewtus > >> Subject: Re: Another steam tip > > >> I just ordered the 2 hole Isomac and the 4-small-hole Vivaldi from > >> Chris' > >> Coffee. Loking forward to trying both, but I'd still like to get one > >> of the single hole tapered body tips linked by the original poster. > >> Can anybody point me in the right direction? > > >> On Oct 27, 2:21 am, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> Yes, that tip is the right idea. I have the one in the link below, > >>> but unfortunately the holes are bigger than advertised and too large > >>> for good performance on the B2. It's not bad, but not the "perfect" > >>> tip. So far the 2-hole isomac is my daily driver, and the one-hole > >>> Brewtus is a close second. > > >>> tx, > >>> bmc > > >>> On Oct 26, 2009, at 7:00 PM, rutnip wrote: > > >>>> Nice international border symmetry! The reason that I was looking > >>>> at this tip in the first place is that 1st-Line (Gold Pro) will > >>>> not ship to Canada. I will look for the 2-hole Isomac. > >>>> Benjamin, is this: > > >>http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/repairpartssection3/ > >> new4hole... > >>>> what you are looking for? > > >>>> On Oct 26, 6:26 pm, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> Sigh. Shaun always makes me feel like the Grasshopper. I can > >>>>> pour a really nice 6 ounce latte, but I only aspire to something > >>>>> that > > small. > > >>>>> Anyway. I use the 2-hole isomac (small holes) and Shaun uses the > >>>>> 2- hole Gold Pro. They are nearly identical, and make excellent > >>>>> foam for anything latte size or smaller (Italian latte, not > >>>>> American swimming pool latte). The stock one-hole does a nice > >>>>> job, but as you said, takes a bit more "hand". > > >>>>> Search on "tip experiment" and you'll find a lot of info. > > >>>>> tx, > >>>>> bmc > >>>>> On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Shaun Taylor wrote: > > >>>>>> There are a few tips out there that I'd like to play with but if > >>>>>> you don't want to try a bunch of experimentation and it's just > >>>>>> good milk you are looking for there have been some really solid > >>>>>> threads on the subject in the archinves (quite a lot of work > >>>>>> done by Ben) and the recommendations made at that time are good > >>>>>> in my opinion. As long as you go with a recommended tip, and > >>>>>> practice, you can pour some fantastic microfoam with the > >>>>>> Brewtus. I pour great milk every single day. Here's an example of > >>>>>> a four ounce beverage I had a few days ago in my own kitchen: > >>>>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/staylortravelling/4007313284/sizes/o > >>>>>> /i > >>>>>> n/ > >>>>>> ... > >>>>>> 57594496028315/ > > >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> --------- - > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> Shaun Taylor > > >>>>>>http://shaundoreenevankeegan.blogspot.com/ > > >>>>>>http://shaunseye.blogspot.com/ > > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>>>> On Behalf Of Benjamin McCafferty > >>>>>> Sent: 26 October 2009 15:59 > >>>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Another steam tip > > >>>>>> My suspicion is that this tip will make it easier to draw air > >>>>>> into the milk during the stretching phase, but will not make any > >>>>>> difference during the rolling phase (which is where I feel the > >>>>>> one-hole tip could be stronger). Let us know how it goes. I've > >>>>>> tested lots of tips, but don't think I'll be trying this one. > >>>>>> What I really would like to see is a four-hole that actually has > >>>>>> holes .9mm or smaller. > >>>>>> bmc > >>>>>> On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Bobcat wrote: > > >>>>>>> I've been wishing for something like this for a long time. The > >>>>>>> tapered tip looks like it would make it easier to get good > >>>>>>> microfoam. The original tip is just too bulbous. I'm ordering > >>>>>>> it right now. > > >>>>>>> I tried to get a tip that was supposed to be similar to this > >>>>>>> from WLL about two years ago. They described it as the new > >>>>>>> latte art steaming tip. After ordering it I was informed that > >>>>>>> it was on backorder, and it would ship as soon as they had it. > >>>>>>> They went ahead and charged my credit card and I eventually > >>>>>>> forgot about it. Then, about 6 months later, a tip showed up > >>>>>>> that was identical to the one that came on my machine two years > > earlier. > >>>>>>> That was the last time I gave them any of my business. > > >>>>>>> On Oct 22, 9:36 pm, rutnip <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Does anybody know anything about > >>>>>>>> this?http://www.zcafe.ca/site/ > >>>>>>>> Product.aspx?ID=472 > >>>>>>>> I wonder if it really is an Expobar product.- Hide quoted text > >>>>>>>> - > > >>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
