Hi there Bobcat,

I know this is a topic of hot debate, and I don't mean to touch off a war 
here.....but here's another opinion.

I live west of Seattle, with fairly hard water.  We are always in the 8+ range 
for pH, and TDS run pretty high, maybe 200-300 or so.  

I had the softener float a couple of times in the past and cause a pump to burn 
out (sucking air and no water), so I removed it altogether a couple of years 
ago.  I use filtered water from the house supply, i.e. running through a 
2-stage GE filter system that I bought at Home Depot for about $200.  So far, I 
have no issues with scale or clogging.  I am careful to drain the hot water 
boiler whenever I clean, to keep the solids from getting ridiculously high in 
there, but otherwise I have taken no protective actions.  I descaled once at 
about two years, and am due to descale again.  One of these years I plan to 
replace my brew boiler tank just so I can cut the old one in half and see 
whether the whole descaling question is much ado about nothing or not.  I also 
have a bore scope--anyone know if I can easily open a hole into the boilers so 
I can have a non-desctructive look inside?

I may well be sorry down the road, but to date the softener seems like an 
unnecessary part, at least in my particular location and water supply.  I have 
seen friends on well water who have rust lines in their toilet, etc. and I 
think in their case I'd probably use bottled water anyway.

Just some thoughts to consider.

bmc


On Dec 4, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Dan Hagelin wrote:

> The way I do it requires that you have a suitably long piece of plastic 
> tubing.   I attach the hose to the nipple of the softener gizmo, and then put 
> 3 big tablespoons of salt in a full reservoir of water.  I  then submerge the 
> gizmo in the reservoir and siphon the whole tank of salt water through it.  I 
> repeat the process with fresh water and then at then end of the tank test 
> that the last bit of water doesn't taste salty.  If it happens to still taste 
> salty, and it never has, you can run another reservoir of fresh water though 
> it.  
> 
> I assume this process works, but I've never tested the water for hardness 
> before and after so I don't really know for sure.  It makes me feel better, 
> though!
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 4, 2010, at 4:15 PM, HERMAN wrote:
> 
>> i always put mine in a glass of water until it fills and the just connect it 
>> to the hose. i'm sure there are better ideas but it will be full of air and 
>> your pump will lose it's prime if you don't fill it with water.
>> 
>> --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Bobcat <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Bobcat <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Charging the softner????
>> To: "Brewtus" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 7:06 PM
>> 
>> I just received a new softner cartridge, identical to the original
>> one, and there were no instructions on how to charge it for use. Can
>> someone tell me what to do before I put it into use, and what future
>> maintenance I'll need to do and how often?
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