What about your grinder?  tamper? water quality? dosage? I presume you
use the same beans.

You've got the right idea to take your machine over there.

If it comes down to the machine it shouldn't be a surprise.

On Mar 27, 8:38 pm, Dan Hagelin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Kitt,
>
> Thanks for your thoughtful response.  It occurred to me that I could hire the 
> barista to come to my home but your suggestion of taking mine to the coffee 
> shop is much better in that it allows A/B comparisons.  What separates our 
> shots is that his have such a phenomenal  clarity of flavor which allows me 
> to perceive a myriad  of flavors that are simply missing in mine where the 
> palate is more homogenous and simple.   His machine is a beautiful La 
> Marzocco and it seems fitting that it's output would surpass that of a 
> Brewtus, but it does it so so handily that my home shots now seem lackluster. 
>  It will be interesting to see what kind of results this barista can eke out 
> of my Brewtus.  I won't spring for the GS/3 yet!
>
> Tanks again,
> Dan
>
> On Mar 27, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Kitt Johnson wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dan,  You asked
> >  "have experience using a loftier machine than the Brewtus and if the 
> > results they achieved were noticeably superior.
>
> > I have used a few other machines, notably a few of the LM machines and then 
> > a number of other shop machines (not every shop seems to be able to afford 
> > an LM.)  I have not found them noticeably superior.  I also seem to recall 
> > seeing a few comments on forum boards by baristas who have a Brewtus saying 
> > that they did not find it deficient.
>
> > A more likely cause of your disappointment may be that your machine is not 
> > set-up quite the same way that the shop machine is, or your technique is 
> > not well suited to their blend of coffee.  You do have the opportunity to 
> > do a little testing by throwing your machine in the back of the car, 
> > filling your reservoir from his dispensed water supply and having the 
> > barista prep a few filter baskets that you can pull together. The latter 
> > will eliminate the grinder, volume distribution and tamp from the 
> > variables, hopefully leaving you with just machine issues.
>
> > What you particularly need is the testing equipment to verify that your 
> > dispensed temperature matches his and that your pressure matches his.  You 
> > can not assume that just because your PID reads the same number that he 
> > says he is using, the dispensed temperatures exactly match the number on 
> > the gauge.  Only something like a Scace (That can perform the same test on 
> > both machines) can tell you if the machines are really the same.  Absent 
> > test equipment, your barista may be able to tweak your machine's settings 
> > by taste to bring your experience more in line with his shop results.
>
> > KittJ
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dan Hagelin
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:52 PM
> > Subject: Man or machine?
>
> > I have a PID’ed and well maintained Brewtus V-II,  ... I’m not a complete 
> > rooky.  I suspect (and hope) ...
>
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