I know what you mean. But, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how much your humble B2 can do... b
On Mar 27, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Dan Hagelin wrote: > Sage advice! It's not like I have $7500 just lying around! I do, though, > like the idea of seeing how close the Brewtus can get to a professional level > machine. I kind of hope it would only get so far. What else would justify > the high price of a GS/3 for example? I'll report back when I do. > > Thanks, > Dan > > On Mar 27, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Benjamin McCafferty wrote: > >> I concur with what has been said so far. I wouldn't downplay your machine >> though. Remember that, before the GS/3 was available, the Brewtus was the >> ONLY home machine recommended by David Schomer on his site for home use (and >> the GS/3 now holds that honor). I don't consider $7,500 to be a "home" >> price, so I still consider the Brewtus to be among the best home machines >> you can find. There are a few others since the B2, but not many. >> >> All that said, I am reminded of some sage advice that a brewer once gave me >> in Belgium. I was asking how to reproduce his yeast/bacteria culture, >> flavor profile, etc. in a beer I brewed here in Seattle, and he said >> something like, "Why don't you develop your own house beer that you really >> like? You will never re-create exactly what we do here, but you may well >> find something even better, and with your own unique set of yeast and >> bacteria, you will then have something that noone else will be able to >> reproduce!" >> >> If it were me, I would go enjoy the shots at your cafe, and all that the >> experience there offers you. And I'd also play with blends/roast >> levels/etc. at home and find something that suits you equally well, or >> better! I just changed my "house" blend last week, and found something >> (after two years) that I like even better than what I was doing before. >> >> Just a thought. >> >> All the best, keep us posted. >> >> b >> >> On Mar 27, 2011, at 6:20 PM, TWG wrote: >> >>> What about your grinder? tamper? water quality? dosage? I presume you >>> use the same beans. >>> >>> You've got the right idea to take your machine over there. >>> >>> If it comes down to the machine it shouldn't be a surprise. >>> >>> On Mar 27, 8:38 pm, Dan Hagelin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Kitt, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your thoughtful response. It occurred to me that I could hire >>>> the barista to come to my home but your suggestion of taking mine to the >>>> coffee shop is much better in that it allows A/B comparisons. What >>>> separates our shots is that his have such a phenomenal clarity of flavor >>>> which allows me to perceive a myriad of flavors that are simply missing >>>> in mine where the palate is more homogenous and simple. His machine is a >>>> beautiful La Marzocco and it seems fitting that it's output would surpass >>>> that of a Brewtus, but it does it so so handily that my home shots now >>>> seem lackluster. It will be interesting to see what kind of results this >>>> barista can eke out of my Brewtus. I won't spring for the GS/3 yet! >>>> >>>> Tanks again, >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> On Mar 27, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Kitt Johnson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dan, You asked >>>>> "have experience using a loftier machine than the Brewtus and if the >>>>> results they achieved were noticeably superior. >>>> >>>>> I have used a few other machines, notably a few of the LM machines and >>>>> then a number of other shop machines (not every shop seems to be able to >>>>> afford an LM.) I have not found them noticeably superior. I also seem >>>>> to recall seeing a few comments on forum boards by baristas who have a >>>>> Brewtus saying that they did not find it deficient. >>>> >>>>> A more likely cause of your disappointment may be that your machine is >>>>> not set-up quite the same way that the shop machine is, or your technique >>>>> is not well suited to their blend of coffee. You do have the opportunity >>>>> to do a little testing by throwing your machine in the back of the car, >>>>> filling your reservoir from his dispensed water supply and having the >>>>> barista prep a few filter baskets that you can pull together. The latter >>>>> will eliminate the grinder, volume distribution and tamp from the >>>>> variables, hopefully leaving you with just machine issues. >>>> >>>>> What you particularly need is the testing equipment to verify that your >>>>> dispensed temperature matches his and that your pressure matches his. >>>>> You can not assume that just because your PID reads the same number that >>>>> he says he is using, the dispensed temperatures exactly match the number >>>>> on the gauge. Only something like a Scace (That can perform the same >>>>> test on both machines) can tell you if the machines are really the same. >>>>> Absent test equipment, your barista may be able to tweak your machine's >>>>> settings by taste to bring your experience more in line with his shop >>>>> results. >>>> >>>>> KittJ >>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Dan Hagelin >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:52 PM >>>>> Subject: Man or machine? >>>> >>>>> I have a PID’ed and well maintained Brewtus V-II, ... I’m not a complete >>>>> rooky. 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