On 5/8/2011 9:32 AM, Dennis Keating wrote:
On 5/7/2011 8:30 PM, AngerManagement wrote:
Only way to check correctly;  is to have it tested independently and
the testing place / people to have a test system that is within
Calibration dates and a method / process to ensure consistency etc.
And if your doing it right you will be looking for a target value and
may also look at linearity.   Some may be fine at 10 but be out by 1
or 2 bar below 8 or above 12 etc...

For me the Brew gauge only needs a   +/- 2 bar range and even then the
accuracy will be +/- 0.5 bar.  Thus  one could read 8.5 and another
read 9.5  and yet they are 100 % and the actual could be  9.   Or they
could both read 9 but the actual could be 8.5 or 9.5....

Have seen 5 separate gauges all get different readings  and also
different on different machines.

If you not getting a perfect seal, then any leakage will have an
impact.

Also as any air in teh system is trapped; then compression and release
can cause a flutter AND do not forget and crap / grinds / dirt etc can
cause the OPV to flutter and or have issues.

Vibe or Rotary pump ?

I have a Locally made scace that has a bead to simulate flow

Have seen all sorts of issues with a OPV that would work well when
some one used a blind - ie with no flow; thus lots of excess pump
pressure to work the OPV.    Yet when run on my test unit (and a
controlled bled) OR with a puck with coffee in it, the unit would
flutter a bit.

Yes gauges were not in agreement but at the end of the day it was a
dirty / old OPV and a clean fixed it.    A while later it was replaced
a steh owner no longer felt he could trust it....

Moral = The gauges are only indicators and the result in teh cup is
what it should be about.  Unless using a calibrated gauge with a known
accuracy and a defined response range etc, your stressing over
measurements that you may not fully understand and could lead to
making a Mountain out of a Mole hill.

PS.

Spent many years in a Medical Calibration lab and studied Metrology.
Great field but frustration when trying to explain the detail to many.
Just focus on the big picture.

The gauges your working with; are Indicators, not measurement devices.

well put, anger management. pete, i think you are being too sensitive to paying attention to your gauge, but with OPV issues, i can understand it. -Dennis

pete, it could depend on where the pressure gauge is hooked into, re: boiler or some other place in the system. that is not telling you the real pressure at the puck that you are interested in. get an extra p/f and some fittings and a needle valve and hook up a good gauge with good specs. you can turn the needle valve down to simulate flow during a pour. then adjust your brew pressure to that gauge, and don't rely on the other one anymore.-- Dennis

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