oh, the only reason i used lots of yellow tape on the heater element threads was becauce they are coarse and i thought looser fitting than other threaded parts. go w/Hermans way to be sure.

On 2/13/2012 9:41 AM, HERMAN wrote:
for high pressure/temp lines we always use teflon tape with a good quality liquid pipe dope. don't overdo the tape. leave the first couple of threads clear of dope. then put on the liquid, in this case food approved, dope. tighten it to the desired location for the inlet/outlet and the let it sit 24 hours before pressurizing. you shouldn't have any trouble if you do it this way. make sure the fittings line up correctly and never loosen to fix an alignment issue even if it means removing and re-doing the installation.


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    *From:* Dennis Keating <[email protected]>
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2012 11:32 AM
    *Subject:* Re: My Baby has a leak!!!!

    for what its worth, i have replaced the heater element twice on
    the steam boiler of my B1.  i use the yellow gas tape and lots of
    it.  i think the tape squashes out to form a gasket, too.  -Dennis

    On 2/12/2012 8:10 PM, AngerManagement wrote:
    PTFE tape performs very well for many applications, but many miss use
    on coffee machines. I see more problems from incorrect use, than
    quality fixes. And even when it is the correct solution, in many cases
    it also comes back to the correct way of putting it on, which some
    also get wrong. But after working as a fitter in the medical field and
    working on all sorts of plumbing over 35 years, I still have people
    with no experience other than google look on in amazement. When I fix
    things the old fashioned way after being told I don't know any thing.

    Won't comment as to the ongoing debate as to FOOD SAFE, other than
    even food is not safe if one treats it incorrectly or over indulges.
    Same goes for many materials used in making and repairing.

    I usually purchase a selection of plumbing washers( both fibre and
    Teflon) and also have a small 1mm thick sheet of ptfe and cut / punch
    to suit, for any strange needs. I also still have some of the old
    style fibre packing and some sealing compound, that on occasions still
    gets used for those water mains jobs... Often works better than the
    heavy grade ptfe tape :-)

    *****Note:
    Have just restored a couple of old machines and the main boiler
    gaskets and where the neck fits for the levers and e61 heads; are all
    asbestos impregnated.  Does it matter, nope as it is wet and any
    particulates that get loose, would need to get through the coffee
    puck :-)  So it is all filtered :-)

    Get more crap in the lungs and stomach from eating off dirty grills
    and breathing quality air in a traffic jam :-)


    On Feb 13, 7:59 am, CRAIG STOUT<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:
    So I guess I will take it apart and see what this gasket should look like - 
If I decide to go that route - are they available? The last thing I want is to 
do it, and then have some funky taste in the water, although if I am judicious 
with the Loctite, I won't get it near the threads that are close to the water. 
As well, my buddy suggested putting teflon tape on the threads, then using a 
razor blade in the threads to cut it back a bit - Jeez, what a drag. So, this 
necessitates taking BOTH boilers off and working on them - Is there other stuff 
that you guys are aware of that I should do that will prevent problems in the 
future? (I bow down to the groups knowledge....)

    Thanks

    Craig

    On 2012-02-11, at 8:37 AM, John Brinkman wrote:







    Looks like it is a Brewtus Issue, I had the same leaks on my one.
    They local guys said that the machines didn't have any teflon washers in 
them when they are built.
    I was lazy and got them to sort it out for me :-)
    JohnB
    On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Mario German Mejia<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:
    Craig, do not waste your time with just teflon tape....
    I went through this ordeal and I spent 3  to four hour of frustation just 
to find out that it would leak again.........
    The big problem, at least on my Brewtus III was the lack of a teflon gasket.
    Try Loctite 567  (1000 PSI pressure and 400F + safe for water contact). 
Just make sure you allow enough time to  fully cure  ( 72 hours) without 
turning your machine on. I know that it will be endless but it is worth. 
Otherwise, it will leak again. It happened to me and I learned the lesson in a 
hard way....
    Finally, you have to run several liters of water through it to get rid of 
that funky taste......
    I ended up selling it after testing it for one month.
    Good luck
    From: Craig Stout<[email protected]>  <mailto:[email protected]>
    To:[email protected]  <mailto:[email protected]>
    Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:56 PM
    Subject: Re: My Baby has a leak!!!!
    Guess I am going to have to get in there and get my hands dirty - with 
respect to Teflon tape - standard heat resistant tape, or is there a special 
food safe one? And hey, many thanks for the quick response!
    Craig
    On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Ira<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:
    At 03:32 PM 2/10/2012, you wrote:
    Hi Ira - nope, Insulation is not wet - as far as I can tell, the primary 
leak is coming from where the bottom tube comes out of the front boiler, and 
the secondary leak is coming from just below the nut that screws into the back 
boiler
    If it's pipe threads, Loctite 565 or 567 is the proper stuff, if it's a 
gasket, it gets harder, as you need it the right thickness so it aims the right 
way just when it gets tight. I have a couple sticks of Teflon rod and a small 
lathe I use when I have that problem.
    Teflon tape might work depending on what it looks like when you get it 
apart, just make sure you start wrapping 1 thread back so none gets in the 
boiler
    Ira
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