Will do.  Thanks!

I tested the water hardness at my house and the water coming from the 
softener is harder than the water going into it!  It's 147 PPM going in and 
153 PPM coming out.  Rather than mess around with the ten year old softener 
I'm going to install a new one tonight.  Always a project!

On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:26:27 AM UTC-7, bmacpiper wrote:
>
> You're right Brian.  But I'd check the existing settings before I pulled 
> the cover...if it ain't broke...
> bmc
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:39, brian <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> Thanks Todd.  So, if my incoming pressure is say 25 PSI I will need to 
> adjust the OPV and pump pressure.  First, I set the pump pressure for 11 
> bar and then set the OPV and set the pump pressure back to 9 PSI, correct?
>
> Brian
>
> On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:31:43 PM UTC-7, Todd Salzman wrote:
>>
>> When you switch out the vibe for a rotary pump you still keep the OPV and 
>> it is located on the outlet of the rotary pump.  When with the rotary pump 
>> the OPV is just a safty relief that will open up if the boiler overheats. 
>>  We set them to open at 11 bar. The pump/brew pressure is set at the 
>> internal bypass on the pump and we se that at 9 bar.
>>
>> Hope this help.
>>
>> Todd Salman
>> Whole Latte Love
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmm...it has been a while since I switched my vibe pump out for rotary, 
>>> but for whatever reason I was thinking the OPV is eliminated when you go 
>>> rotary.  I'm sure someone else will chime in here...but my original OPV is 
>>> no longer behind the adjustment hole behind the drip tray.  Perhaps in 
>>> another location internally.  On the vibe models, the OPV is how the brew 
>>> pressure is set.  I could see it being a safety thing on the rotary pump 
>>> models?
>>>
>>> Yes, brew pressure and pump pressure are the same thing.
>>>
>>> bmc
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 14:10, brian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>
>>> From the IV manual posted last month I see on page 9 and 10 information 
>>> about adjusting the pump pressure, OPV and brew pressure.  When it refers 
>>> to pump pressure, is that the same as the brew pressure adjustment or 
>>> something different?  It doesn't appear to be different based on the 
>>> pictures.  The incoming water pressure will vary significantly from 40 PSI 
>>> which is how they set it when it ships (per the top of page 9).
>>>
>>> From the manual at page 9:
>>>
>>> *Rotary Pump Machines*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> The Brewtus IV-R is designed to be used with a water line connection. 
>>> The pump will work fine off any standard incoming water pressure. The water 
>>> line can be dropped into a water container, if you like, but you must be 
>>> careful not to let it run dry as it could damage the pump. Before we ship 
>>> the machines, we set the brew pressure to 9 Bars at an incoming pressure of 
>>> 40 PISG. If the incoming pressure is higher than 40 PSIG, the brew pressure 
>>> may have to be adjusted down; if it is lower, the pressure may have to be 
>>> adjusted up.
>>>
>>> *Rotary Pump*
>>>
>>> *CAUTION: Adjusting the pump pressure can be time consuming and since 
>>> it is very close to the electrical connection on the boiler, we recommend 
>>> that all adjustment are done when the machine is not plugged in.*
>>>
>>> Note: We recommend that the Rotary pump be set to 9 Bars with the back 
>>> flush disc in place. The OPV should be set to open at 11 Bars.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Adjusting the Pump Pressure:* Adjust the pump pressure by loosening 
>>> the lock nut then turning the adjustment screw. Turn the adjustment screw 
>>> clockwise to raise the pressure and counter clockwise to lower the pressure.
>>>
>>> *Setting the OPV:* We set this before your machine has shipped. To set 
>>> the OPV, you will have to run the machine with the backflush disc in place. 
>>> First, raise the brew pressure to 11 Bars. Then, with the pump running, 
>>> turn the adjustment screw on the OPV so that it just starts to let water 
>>> flow out of the overflow tube. It is now set to open at 11 Bars.
>>>
>>> *Setting the Brew Pressure:* Turn the adjustment screw counter 
>>> clockwise to lower the pressure and clockwise to raise it. Between 
>>> adjustments, lower the lever on the brew group to release the pressure. 
>>> Make your adjustment with the machine unplugged and then plug it in and 
>>> test your setting. When you have the pressure adjusted, tighten the lock 
>>> while holding the adjustment screw in place or it may turn and change the 
>>> setting.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 18, 2013 7:48:02 PM UTC-7, bmacpiper wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I run my steam boiler at 1.45 bar (set that way from WLL when I got 
>>>> it), and I'd recommend 9 bar against a backflush disc, which will end up 
>>>> being about 8.5 bar when pulling a shot. 
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy the new machine! 
>>>> bmc 
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad 
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 18, 2013, at 18:35, brian <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>>>
>>>> > I live in Colorado and new to the group.  I have a PID'd Gaggia 
>>>> Classic that I've been using for a couple months and decided I wanted 
>>>> something more.  The IV-R should be here Thursday and I'm real excited. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > I've got the plumbing all ready to go with a 3/8" coming from the 
>>>> basement with a shutoff at the tap and near the machine.  I've also got a 
>>>> pressure regulator near the machine.  I've got a whole house softener and 
>>>> the water tastes great from the tap so I think I'm good there.  I'm going 
>>>> to double check the hardness and PH just so I know.  I have been using a 
>>>> carbon filter for the Gaggia. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > I'm reading through the forum but thought I'd post and see if anyone 
>>>> has suggestions for things I should pay attention to.  Reading through the 
>>>> manual I see it might be wise to adjust the pressures on the machine once 
>>>> I 
>>>> dial in the pressure regulator since it was set for an incoming pressure 
>>>> of 
>>>> 40 psi.. Any suggestions on those settings? 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Thanks for any help! 
>>>> > 
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