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Well, I found the problem as well as another one. It looks like when I
replaced the main power switch I managed to wire it backwards. Whoops!
That would explain a lot of what was confusing me earlier.
Having fixed that issue, I proceeded with the diagnosis and noticed that
I wasn't getting voltage out of the pressurestat when the steam light
was off, so obviously not seeing it at the SSR either. Looks like I need
a new pressurestat.
Thanks for the help Todd!
On 3/25/15 3:09 PM, Todd Salzman wrote:
HI Bruce,
Yup, sorry but the Video is not done. It is on the schedule again for
tomorrow.
But in the mean time.
To check the pressure stat so that we know it is sending power towards
the brew boiler see if you have 110 volts between the The middle wire
on the pressure stat and ground. You should have 110 volts when the
steam boiler light on the front of the machine is off.
The middle wire on the pressure stat runs down to the ssr so you
should also have 110 volts from T1 on the ssr to ground
Now turn the steam boiler switch off:
Then check from L1 to ground and you should have voltage jumping up
when the light on the SSR blinks on.
You can then to the the same test on the high limit. Do both sides to
ground.
Then pull the wires off the heating element and stick your leads in
both and check there.
let me know how you make out.
Thanks
Todd
Set your meter to AC volts, check it in a known power source such as
an outlet to make sure it is reading correctly. Then put it across
the A1 and A2 terminals on the SSR. YOu should see the voltage jump
everytime the light goes on
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Todd Salzman
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello Bruce,
I am very sorry but I was not able to get the information to you
today.
I will have it done tomorrow
Regards,
Todd
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Todd Salzman
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
To early to go with a new SSR.
But at least now we are getting good info.
I am trying to get a chance to put together a testing
procedure but may not be able to do it until tomorrow.
I'll do my best.
Todd
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Bruce Keeler
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The voltage between the brew boiler wires was 42V
throughout the test, both before and after the steam light
went out. I also measured the voltage to ground of the two
wires: 118V (blue) and 8V (red).
Sounds like maybe I need a new SSR?
Thanks,
Bruce
On 3/23/15 5:53 AM, Todd Salzman wrote:
Hi Bruce,
The next step is to:
Unplug the machine and pull the two wires off the brew
boiler and stick the leads from your volt meter into them
and turn on the machine.
After the steam boiler heats up and the red light goes
off do you have any voltage? (First test your meter by
checking the voltage at the outlet so that you know you
are on the proper scale/settings)
As a side test:
With the machine un pluged pull the wires off the steam
boiler and check the Ohms across the terminals on the
heating element. It should read about 14. Then after
you know you have the proper meter setting check the brew
boiler.
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Bruce Keeler
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I haven't moved any wires, so we can rule that out.
When turned on, the steam boiler heats up as normal
with the big red light on. Steam pressure comes up,
big red goes off.
The PID display says 15ºC and stays there give or
take. The small red light on the PID is on steady, as
is the LED on the SSR.
The pump does come on when the lever is raised.
Thanks,
Bruce
On 3/22/15 4:20 PM, Todd Salzman wrote:
If we can we start from scratch I might be able to
help after a couple of e mails.
Put all the wires back to their original position.
What happens when you turn it on?(describe symptoms)
The information I will need is:
Does the steam boiler heat up?
Does the big red light on the right side of the
machine go on?
What do the display on the PID say?
Is the small light on the PID flashing?
Does the pump run when you raise the brew lever?
Todd Salzman
Whole Latte Love
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Bruce Keeler
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
BII with rotary and PID conversions installed.
When the machine is warmed up and steam light is
off, I see 110V at BOTH terminals of the brew
boiler element. This tells me that the neutral
connection to the element is bad, right? When
the steam boiler is getting power I see 110V and
0V at its terminals as expected.
But the thing is, with the machine powered down
I stripped a tiny piece of insulation off the
neutral wire of the incoming power cord and
measured the resistance from there to each of
the two element terminals. I got 0Ω and 14Ω as
expected. This tells me that the neutral
connection to the element is fine.
I'm going crazy trying to figure this out. Any
ideas?
Thanks,
Bruce
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