Yeah, that was my thought/concern--perhaps both heating at once--not sure if 
there's any way that can happen via a fault.  Anyone know?  I'll try WLL at 
some point also.
best,
bmc

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> On Jul 10, 2015, at 08:30, Graeme Burton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Benjamin,
> 
> Brew heat light will be on because PID is calling for heat - it won’t be 
> getting any though. Probably heating through the HX as you suggest.
> 
> Yes will work but it’s giving priority to the brew boiler.  I would leave the 
> steam boiler disconnected in case the switch is completely stuffed somehow - 
> hmmm is it possible both boilers are heating and thats why the cord is hot?  
> Could just try adjusting the pstat to see if it is just sticky and frees up 
> but should replace as its an indication it has become u/s or at least 
> unreliable.
> 
> Graeme
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Jul 2015, at 11:23 pm, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> OK--reversed the NC and NO, and the steam red light came on, and it started 
>> heating.  Interestingly, at the same time, the brew boiler light on the PID 
>> display stayed on steady, and though I know it shouldn't actually be 
>> heating, the temperature was climbing.  Perhaps from the HX circulating a 
>> bit?
>> 
>> When I went to unplug the unit again at the wall outlet, the power cord was 
>> very hot, almost too hot to touch.  I don't ever touch the cord on a daily 
>> basis, so I have no idea whether this is normal for the machine during 
>> initial heating, but seemed pretty hot.
>> 
>> So Graeme, would this test indicate the p-stat needs replacement, or is 
>> there a fix for a stuck p-stat?  And will the machine function with these 
>> wires reversed until a new pstat arrives (sorry, weak on pstat theory...)
>> 
>> best to all,
>> bmc
>> 
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>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 08:15, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Graeme.  I forgot to mention that I installed a Jaeger as well, but 
>>> it's also about 5-6 yrs old.  Will try...
>>> bmc
>>> 
>>> Sent from my apple IIe
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 07:53, Graeme Burton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sounds like pstat might have got stuck in position as if pressure set 
>>>> point has been reached. Can test by switching the NC and NO wires on the 
>>>> Pstat to reverse it's normal operation. 
>>>> 
>>>> IMO much cheaper to repair and descale than buying another machine.
>>>> 
>>>> Graeme
>>>> Original Message  
>>>> From: Benjamin McCafferty
>>>> Sent: Friday, 10 July 2015 22:43
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Reply To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Dead steam boiler, but...
>>>> 
>>>> Morning all,
>>>> Woke up to the dreaded cold steam boiler this morning; B2 that's about 7-8 
>>>> years old with PID and rotary pump upgrades that I did maybe 5 years ago. 
>>>> I did some quick searching in the archives and found Eric's excellent 
>>>> piece on replacing elements. 
>>>> 
>>>> This is my first time to troubleshoot a dead boiler, so a couple of 
>>>> notes/questions.
>>>> 
>>>> First, my brew boiler is at normal temp and recovers when I pull a shot. 
>>>> With the steam boiler getting heating prioritiy, and not hot, how is this 
>>>> possible? For what it's worth, the red light for the steam boiler never 
>>>> comes on.
>>>> 
>>>> Second, I found Ira's comments about testing the boiler, but open to any 
>>>> suggestions on how to quickly diagnose the element, pressure stat, etc. 
>>>> and any other related parts.
>>>> 
>>>> Third, is it worth fixing this machine, i.e. cost vs. expected life, etc. 
>>>> For example, will there come a day when the E61 group clogs (like my hot 
>>>> water line) and is no longer useable, etc. Or would a replacement of 
>>>> elements, p stat, etc. give this machine another near-decade of life?
>>>> 
>>>> All the best as always,
>>>> Ben McCafferty
>>>> 
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