I think the battery in my tester just went bad, will get another one and 
check that soon.  I was going to say shortly, but that just would have been 
a bad choice of words :)

At first it was reading around 114 ohms and slowly climbing, but then I 
stopped getting any reading at all when on a connector and the copper pipe 
to the group head, and same thing connector to top of boiler.  Touching the 
probe tips together gave a normal 0.0 reading, so think the battery doesn't 
have enough juice to test the connector to boiler body.

Steve

On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 12:11:15 PM UTC-4, GRB wrote:
>
> Could be a crack or pinhole in the element in that case. I have seen this 
> before in a commercial machine. Also did you check resistance is very high 
> (open circuit) between boiler and element leg (with machine off and element 
> disconnected of course) ?
>
> Graeme
> *From: *StevieG.
> *Sent: *Monday, 22 August 2016 00:04
> *To: *Brewtus
> *Reply To: *[email protected] <javascript:>
> *Subject: *Re: Dead short?
>
> Hi Graeme - it is a GFI that pops, which happened also when I plugged it 
> into a GFI on a different circuit.
>
> Just plugged everything in with the tank pressure switch active, but the 
> brew boiler element disconnected.  Lights on and pump running.
>
> Thx!
> Steve
>
> On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 11:53:44 AM UTC-4, GRB wrote:
>>
>> Does the breaker pop immediately when machine cold? Trying to work if you 
>> have an over current situation (short) or an earth leakage fault (eg water 
>> mixing with electricity etc). Is it a gfi/rcd  breaker‎ or just a current 
>> over load breaker?
>>
>> Graeme
>> *From: *StevieG.
>> *Sent: *Sunday, 21 August 2016 23:31
>> *To: *Brewtus
>> *Reply To: *[email protected]
>> *Subject: *Re: Dead short?
>>
>> Good morning!
>>
>> Finally getting around to troubleshooting after some heavy travel weeks, 
>> but fortunately not the days that Delta was offline :)
>>
>> How can you drain the boiler without the pump?
>>
>> I disconnected the line on top of the steam boiler where the p-stat 
>> connects, and removed the knurled nut from the pump intake line, and some 
>> water came out but it doesn't look like the whole boiler amount.
>>
>> Getting about 13.5 ohms across the element connectors on the steam 
>> boiler, and 13.4 on the brew boiler.  
>>
>>
>>    - Steam boiler disconnected, power on doesn't pops breaker.  
>>    - Brew boiler connected, power on pops breaker.  
>>    - Steam boiler connected, brew boiler disconnected doesn't pop 
>>    breaker.  
>>    
>>
>> This is with the water tank pressure switch disconnected, so nothing else 
>> is powered up.  Now wondering why I am getting the same resistance across 
>> both elements, and if something other than the element could be shorted?
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>> Steve
>>
>>
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