Thanks for the reply. I'll be spending a lot of time researching before I
buy. I've been reading almost constantly since I posted and am still trying
to decide the best route. It looks like the Quest m3 is a great machine and
since it's manual and quiet and has a trier should be a great machine. I
will not need to do large batches so that's a plus as well. I am finding
that it's more involved to get a good roast than I initially thought but
that's not necessarily a bad thing. I think I will enjoy the
experimentation. I'd rather buy a machine that I will be satisfied than end
up upgrading every year or two. Still a lot of information to sort
though....

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:49 AM, 'Mike Walsh' via Brewtus <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I started with a modified popcorn popper where I could switch in and out
> both the high temp and the low temp heating coils and could control the
> fan.  It took me maybe two hours and $25 in parts from Radio Shack.  I wish
> I could point you to the info, but that was years ago.  If you have a
> variac around you can get even more heat control, but just being able to
> switch the high and low coils in and out was enough for me to stretch
> roasts between 1st and 2nd crack, etc.
>
> I got VERY good coffee, including espresso, out of that setup, but
> ultimately the capacity wasn't high enough for my needs.
>
> I would not use an unmodified popper, but I'm sure you can probably find
> some decent info out there still on mods (I just did a Google and there are
> tons of pages still).
>
> The big benefit of using a popper for some time is that you can very
> easily probe the bean mass, smell it, see it, hear it.  You really learn,
> understand, and recognize all the roasting stages.
>
> Once you move to a more closed roaster, you are going to need all that
> experience because your sensory information is going to be reduced.
>
> If for no other reason than that, I'd do 10-20 popper roasts.
>
> I've been on a Behmor 1600 since virtually the day they came out, and I
> get very good roasts, including pushing into light Vienna for espresso.
> Recently I upgraded to the new control panel and the side panel with the
> fan.  In my experience, the Behmor is a bargain of a roaster and you get
> good results, but do make sure that you regularly clean the inside as well
> as doing minor disassembly and really clean the fans well.  For whatever
> reason, if I get more than minimal buildup on my fans the roaster doesn't
> work nearly as well.
>
> On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 11:06:19 AM UTC-4, bmacpiper wrote:
>>
>> Hey Herman,
>> I used to roast a lot, and really enjoyed it. I’ve gone through a few
>> roasters and my last was/is a hottop. It was really good, and I hear great
>> things about the behmor also.
>> In my opinion, using a popcorn popper to decide if you like roasting
>> would be like using Folger’s to decide if you like espresso. You need to
>> have a decent tool to get the good result, and if you use a crappy tool you
>> can’t really conclude you don’t like the result.
>>
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