Thanks, the more info and opinions I get the better!

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Jonathan Stroum <[email protected]> wrote:

> Quest M3 seems like a lot of $ for a 120 gram per roast output. Do I have
> that right?
>
>
>
> I buy from Sweet Maria’s (Vivace is less than a mile from me but $14 for
> 12 oz of beans is $$$).  I use a Nesco roaster for ¼ lb batches.  $150 from
> Sweet Marias.  Very good introduction to the simple art of roasting and
> sampling beans from different areas of the world.  I roast 3 or 4 batches
> in a row.  Important to let roasted beans rest for 48 to 72 hours. Lots of
> info on Sweet Marias on every variety.
>
>
>
> $150 and beans to experiment with would let you get your feet wet and
> better prepare you for choosing a machine that’ll best support your
> ambitions. Fully manual wouldn’t be my first choice. Hottop looks great
> but, again, I’d get my feet wet first.
>
>
>
> Have fun!
>
>
>
> JPaul
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *herman dickens
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:01 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Home Roasting
>
>
>
> Thanks for the reply. I'll be spending a lot of time researching before I
> buy. I've been reading almost constantly since I posted and am still trying
> to decide the best route. It looks like the Quest m3 is a great machine and
> since it's manual and quiet and has a trier should be a great machine. I
> will not need to do large batches so that's a plus as well. I am finding
> that it's more involved to get a good roast than I initially thought but
> that's not necessarily a bad thing. I think I will enjoy the
> experimentation. I'd rather buy a machine that I will be satisfied than end
> up upgrading every year or two. Still a lot of information to sort
> though....
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:49 AM, 'Mike Walsh' via Brewtus <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> I started with a modified popcorn popper where I could switch in and out
> both the high temp and the low temp heating coils and could control the
> fan.  It took me maybe two hours and $25 in parts from Radio Shack.  I wish
> I could point you to the info, but that was years ago.  If you have a
> variac around you can get even more heat control, but just being able to
> switch the high and low coils in and out was enough for me to stretch
> roasts between 1st and 2nd crack, etc.
>
>
>
> I got VERY good coffee, including espresso, out of that setup, but
> ultimately the capacity wasn't high enough for my needs.
>
>
>
> I would not use an unmodified popper, but I'm sure you can probably find
> some decent info out there still on mods (I just did a Google and there are
> tons of pages still).
>
> The big benefit of using a popper for some time is that you can very
> easily probe the bean mass, smell it, see it, hear it.  You really learn,
> understand, and recognize all the roasting stages.
>
>
>
> Once you move to a more closed roaster, you are going to need all that
> experience because your sensory information is going to be reduced.
>
>
>
> If for no other reason than that, I'd do 10-20 popper roasts.
>
>
>
> I've been on a Behmor 1600 since virtually the day they came out, and I
> get very good roasts, including pushing into light Vienna for espresso.
> Recently I upgraded to the new control panel and the side panel with the
> fan.  In my experience, the Behmor is a bargain of a roaster and you get
> good results, but do make sure that you regularly clean the inside as well
> as doing minor disassembly and really clean the fans well.  For whatever
> reason, if I get more than minimal buildup on my fans the roaster doesn't
> work nearly as well.
>
>
> On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 11:06:19 AM UTC-4, bmacpiper wrote:
>
> Hey Herman,
>
> I used to roast a lot, and really enjoyed it. I’ve gone through a few
> roasters and my last was/is a hottop. It was really good, and I hear great
> things about the behmor also.
>
> In my opinion, using a popcorn popper to decide if you like roasting would
> be like using Folger’s to decide if you like espresso. You need to have a
> decent tool to get the good result, and if you use a crappy tool you can’t
> really conclude you don’t like the result.
>
>
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