If you don't have a portafilter with coffee or the backflush part in the portafilter to cause it to build pressure you won't show any.
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 8:44 AM 'Mike Walsh' via Brewtus < [email protected]> wrote: > I haven't ended up having to buy a replacement yet, but just searching WLL > with "exobar pressure" I found one that is $40 and looks just like the one > that's in the machine. Tim says they have no issues with them, and they > are a bit more than 1/2 the cost of the Jaeger. Mine hasn't stuck again > yet, so Tim said just wait until it does. > > I did find the wiring diagrams on how to switch off the steam boiler and > it's fairly easy, I will probably do it at some time. Just lazy. Probably > will wait until the pressure stat goes and do that to keep the machine > running since I really only pull shots. > > My next adventure is going to be to look at my water line pressure > regulator. They just jumped our municipal water pressure from 70 psi to > 110 psi, and as close as I can tell by the cold brew pressure gauge my > standing water line pressure post-regulator is still about 2 bar or a bit > below. But, the water pressure regulator has a gauge and I've tried to > verify there by the instructions, however when I run the water through the > group, that gauge drops to zero instead of showing regulated water > pressure. I'm really wondering if I installed it backward 8 years ago, > though it's working fine, and I'm pretty careful about that. The guy at > Chris said if the front panel brew gauge when cold shows 2 bar, don't worry > about it. > > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 2:11:17 PM UTC-4, StevieG. wrote: >> >> Hey Mike, what was the alternate pressurestat to the Jaeger? >> >> >> >> On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 12:37:04 PM UTC-4, Mike Walsh wrote: >>> >>> I talked with Tim at WLL today and he suggested resetting the high limit >>> button, but I think that would be indicated if the boiler wasn't heating. >>> >>> Otherwise he said all the current operation sounded good and to just >>> watch it for now, he didn't recommend spending the money on a new pstat >>> just yet. He said they would have me put in the same part, that they don't >>> see any premature failures and it's about 1/2 the price of the Jaeger for >>> what that's worth.... >>> >>> He said the variability I see in turn off pressure was fine, as was the >>> cycle time on the steam boiler running. >>> >>> I wouldn't doubt that at some point the pstat will get stickier, but he >>> said for now to watch it and that it's not a dangerous thing. If I have to >>> replace, I guess I'll decide on the brand then :) >>> >>> Tim didn't have any quick kluge to not power the steam boiler (ie. run >>> only the brew boiler) in case the pstat does go bad, so I'm still in search >>> of an easy kluge. >>> >>> I've got the cover and everything back on, so if there is any extremely >>> minor leaking going on, I definitely cannot hear it anymore. >>> >>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 4:46:48 PM UTC-4, herman dickens wrote: >>>> >>>> I didn't have any trouble getting the wires to fit. It's been a couple >>>> of years at least since I put the last one in. I'm not sure I ever replaced >>>> the vacuum break but I've replaced the o-rings several times. It's an easy >>>> fix to remove the pressurestat and put the new one on. >>>> >>>> Herman >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:31 PM 'Mike Walsh' via Brewtus < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Greetings all, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the encouragement and help. >>>>> >>>>> I pulled out a couple of crescent wrenches and disassembled the vacuum >>>>> breaker valve, and replaced the o-ring without any issues. The old one >>>>> was >>>>> pretty shrunken and dry as you'd image. There really wasn't much crud or >>>>> scale that I could see, so I quickly hit it with a scrubby but didn't go >>>>> too crazy. As easy as that was, I'll just keep doing that until the bag >>>>> of >>>>> 10 is gone, and then trade out the whole part with the spare I have :) >>>>> >>>>> And no more pstat sticking so far, but I know if it sticks once, it's >>>>> probably going to get worse, not better. I'll get on the phone with WLL >>>>> or >>>>> CC tomorrow to look into a new psat. >>>>> >>>>> Q: I assume the pstat is fairly easy to change out? >>>>> >>>>> Q: With the Jaeger, the wiring point locations are different, do the >>>>> existing wires reach OK, or did you have to extend them Herman? >>>>> >>>>> Q: Since I rarely use the steam boiler anyway, if the pstat sticks >>>>> again is there an easy way to "disable" the steam boiler and just run the >>>>> brew boiler? I can dig in the archives, but if the answer is as simple as >>>>> "just pop off one of the connectors on the element on the bottom", that >>>>> would be great to hear and avoid the searching. >>>>> >>>>> Q: I swore I could hear a very, very faint continuing steam leak, but >>>>> maybe now a few hours later the o-ring has softened and settled because >>>>> now >>>>> it's dead silent. And of course my "cycle time" of heating the steam >>>>> boiler is WAY better (it's been as short as 90 seconds with the bad >>>>> o-ring). Now when it heats it'll generally turn on at about 1.05 bar and >>>>> then most of the time turns off at 1.25, but I've seen some variability up >>>>> to sometimes 1.3, 1.35. It'll typically settle around 1.2, then slowly >>>>> decrease over about 4m45s until it turns on again. Does that sound >>>>> reasonable? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any and all continued help. >>>>> >>>>> PS: Adam, if I get to pulling the Brewtus apart at all and you want to >>>>> come on down to Cary, you are welcome to come by, I'll let you know. An >>>>> extra set of hands is always helpful, and it sounds like you are a bit >>>>> more >>>>> advanced on the plumbing side than me. >>>>> >>>>> -mike >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 8:26:40 AM UTC-4, Adam Meade wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm in Raleigh and last fall, I was attempting to fix a steam leak >>>>>> and broke the part that comes out of the steam boiler on my Brewtus IV. >>>>>> I >>>>>> called around and end up taking it to the Appliance Service Center on >>>>>> Peace >>>>>> Street. However, I can't say that I'd fully recommend them. The owner >>>>>> did >>>>>> not communicate well and when I dropped it off, I wasn't sure if he had >>>>>> experience with espresso machines as the place was strewn with old junk >>>>>> of >>>>>> every sort and no signs of espresso gear. However, he was somehow able >>>>>> to >>>>>> source a part that WLL had back ordered and did get it put back together. >>>>>> On the other hand, he didn't test it before I picked it up so there were >>>>>> multiple steam leaks and I ended up disassembling everything on my own >>>>>> anyway and putting in high-temp plumbers tape. He also put the steam >>>>>> gauge back on crooked. On the whole, I wouldn't go back there unless I >>>>>> was >>>>>> really desperate and I'd first try to fix it myself if I could. The >>>>>> crazy >>>>>> thing was when I went to check on it once, someone else had dropped off >>>>>> an >>>>>> identical Brewtus IV there! >>>>>> >>>>>> Good to meet another Brewtus owner in the area. >>>>>> >>>>>> --Adam >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 6:14:42 PM UTC-4, herman dickens wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike the red high temp o-rings seem to work fine on mine. I've had >>>>>>> it since the month the BII's came out and I can't even tell you how many >>>>>>> times I've replaced it. You could have a pressurestat sticking. Mine did >>>>>>> and the same thing happened. I got the Jaeger Pressurstat from Chris >>>>>>> coffee >>>>>>> and it worked a lot better than the one that came on it. The first >>>>>>> Jaeger >>>>>>> lasted 8 years, 2nd 8 months, 3rd is several years old. I think I got a >>>>>>> bad >>>>>>> one the second time. I don't know of anyone around Raleigh but I'll ask >>>>>>> around. I'm just north of Louisburg so not too far away. Keep us posted >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> you have problems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Herman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 5:54 PM 'Mike Walsh' via Brewtus < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Grateful for any help. I've had this Brewtus II for years, and I'm >>>>>>>> probably the 2nd or 3rd owner of it. To my knowledge, no maintenance >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> any kind has ever been done on the machine. I fire it up twice a day, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> pull a shot - I rarely use the steam boiler. I've had no water leaks >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> anything else significant to this point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I turned on the machine to warm it up today, and sometime WELL >>>>>>>> after it would have come up to temp we heard a very loud sound (I >>>>>>>> honestly >>>>>>>> thought our pug dog had passed really loud gas), and the sound of steam >>>>>>>> coming out of the Brewtus under the cover. I quickly turned it off, >>>>>>>> gathered some tools, and took off the cover. I then turned it back >>>>>>>> on, and >>>>>>>> waited to see what happened. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I found I've got hissing from the vacuum breaker valve, but I've >>>>>>>> had that for years. I've had a full replacement valve (the kind with >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> white insert), as well as a bag of the little o-rings as another >>>>>>>> option, >>>>>>>> but life got busy and I've used neither.... Let's hold on that >>>>>>>> thought. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The safety value was hissing as well this time, so I popped it >>>>>>>> DOWN, and it seemed to settle. If it is hissing at all, I can't tell >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> over the vacuum breaker valve. I've let it cool a bit and warm back >>>>>>>> up a >>>>>>>> few times, and have not had the big problem reoccur, and the brew gauge >>>>>>>> shows a very solid maximum of 1.2 bars, so I don't think it's an out of >>>>>>>> control pressure stat or anything. I grabbed a pair of pliers and >>>>>>>> worked >>>>>>>> it UP against the spring pressure and rotated it a number of times >>>>>>>> just to >>>>>>>> make sure if there was any crud I broke it up or moved it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1 - any thoughts or concerns on the safety valve? Is this just >>>>>>>> some weird one-off? Anything I should do or watch/listen for? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2 - Obviously I need to get off my rear and do something about the >>>>>>>> vacuum breaker valve. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - I assume just put on the full assembly one I have rather then >>>>>>>> messing with repairing the other one's o-ring? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Any precautions I need to do like holding the lower part of >>>>>>>> the assembly to keep it from rotating when I wrench off the vacuum >>>>>>>> breaker >>>>>>>> value, or can I just take a wrench and spin off the vacuum breaker >>>>>>>> valve? >>>>>>>> I don't want to break anything. If I need to hold it, is a pair of >>>>>>>> pliers >>>>>>>> sufficient? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - STUPID question: do I have to move the fridge and crawl back >>>>>>>> there to turn off the plumbed-in water line before doing the repair? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm hoping this is fairly quick, and I'll go back to good >>>>>>>> operation. I appreciate any advice! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PS: I imagine at some point this machine will need real >>>>>>>> maintenance, does anyone know anyone in the Raleigh, NC area that >>>>>>>> works on >>>>>>>> these machines? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Brewtus" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. 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