NICE!!! A local cafe also does that with a dollop of coconut oil (the kind that’s solid). It’s a bit weird, but strangely tasty as well. b
> On Nov 14, 2018, at 12:33, herman dickens <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've been using the whole milk exclusively for myself for several years and I > do occasionally add either the heavy cream or sometimes even butter. You'd > probably be pleasantly surprised by the difference a big dollop of butter > makes. > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 3:30 PM 'Benjamin McCafferty' via Brewtus > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Thanks John and Louis! > > I was trying to be somewhat funny/tongue-in-cheek with the comments about cow > diets and such. :) I’m sure that you’re correct, that the handling > differences between dairies are a bigger contributor than anything else. It > all is a mystery here, we get no information about what dairies are > represented in any particular carton of milk. > > Herman, interesting comment. I have been known to occasionally (cough, cough) > make a latte with half and half or heavy cream, and the foam from the 1/2-1/2 > in particular is to die for. One could easily go down the road of coronary > artery disease!!! True heavy cream, though (i.e. from a local dairy with > cream rising to the top in the bottle) is near impossible to do anything > with, other than whip it slightly and make a brilliant Irish coffee in the > tradition of The Buena Vista Cafe in San Fran…mmmmm….. I do tend to agree > that skim is easy to stretch, i.e. the dry capp thing, but I find it really > hard to make it silky at all, in order to pour art. Sort of like the > difference between air pop and oil pop popcorn. I would bet there’s a middle > ground in there somewhere that is perfect; for me, that’s whole milk at 3-4% > fat I think. > > Cheers to all, > bmc > >> On Nov 14, 2018, at 11:01, Louis Fourie <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi John >> 39 Joubert Street, Lochnerhof, Strand 7140. >> >> Could you perhaps let me have the codes for the Woolworth's milk you >> mentioned, please? >> >> As for SPAR's milk, I believe there's also inconsistencies between different >> batches and that is why I sometimes did get OK steam from those, but >> generally I have never been impressed. Dairy Belle's products, on the other >> hand, have never left me down. Found their address in the Strand and plan on >> finding out from them who stocks their milk. >> >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >> Behalf Of John Brinkman >> Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:05 >> To: Brewtus <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Subject: Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >> >> I live in Joburg Louis, not a visitor :-) , whats your physical address, I >> will send you some coffee with the courier? >> >> Louis - The Spar Milk I am talking about is not their shelf life >> non-refrigerated milk but the super pasteurised milk that lasts for 30 days >> refrigerated. >> >> Benjamin - I am pretty confidant that it has to do with the homogenisation >> process. Woolworths, one of our local food chains, has a code denoting the >> dairy of origin on the milk carton on the same label as the use by date. I >> have noticed that two of their dairy's are always froth well, the third is >> always dodgy. I would guess that the reason for the inconsistency might not >> be changes to the cows diet etc but rather different dairies and as such a >> different homoginization process. >> >> The reason I believe that the low fat milks are more consistent in your >> experience is because there is almost no homogenisation that needs to take >> place to break the size of the cream molecules down in low fat milks because >> there is no cream. I think that the large fat molecules are what interfere >> with the micro-foam. >> >> Have absolutely no idea how to test out my theory :-) >> >> JohnB >> >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 7:07 PM Louis Fourie <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> Hi Ben >>> Pity you won't be in my neighbourhood, would have been great to make your >>> acquaintance. Enjoy your visit in any case - beautiful places (well, not >>> Jo'burg, really ;-) you are planning to visit. >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> Louis >>> >>> From: 'Benjamin McCafferty' via Brewtus [mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>] >>> Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:38 >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >>> >>> Interesting thread, you guys. I had never considered homogenization as a >>> cause, but will think about that and investigate here too! >>> >>> In my experience, fat content has a lot to do with it—what we call “whole >>> milk” (as opposed to 2%, 1% or skim/0%—I know, I know, it’s barbaric!) has >>> always given a much better silky foam with that mercury-like sheen. Lower >>> fat makes a great bone-dry cappucino. >>> >>> One of the frustrations that I think we all face is the lack of >>> consistency—the quality of the milk for foaming seems to depend on what the >>> cow ate, what the weather was like that day, whether two crows flew at >>> right angles to the sun, etc.! :) We get milk delivered, but even that is >>> drawn from dozens of dairies around the state of Washington and so I can >>> never be sure how it will be today. So I take photos of my favorites latte >>> art pours, and just drink the rest… :) >>> >>> All the best and take good care. I’ll be down your way again next year >>> (Joburg, Vic Falls, Botswana) and can’t wait to visit again! >>> >>> best, >>> Ben >>> >>> >>>> On Nov 14, 2018, at 02:18, Louis Fourie <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi John >>>> In Pretoria I used to use Dairy Belle long life and it worked very well in >>>> my Jura electric foamer. I acquired my Brewtus only in 2016, when we were >>>> in Lambert's Bay and Dairy Belle was nowhere to be found. We moved here in >>>> March and I cannot find Dairy Belle anywhere around - I have to admit I >>>> have not done a proper search yet. I shall try that SAPR high fat milk - >>>> that is not the long life stuff you are referring to, is it? >>>> >>>> Your offer of a bag of coffee is very kind. Let me know how much. >>>> As for my address, Postnet Somerset Mall is probably the safest place to >>>> send it to. You could give them my phone nr: 082 808 0476. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Louis >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>>> Behalf Of John Brinkman >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2018 10:45 >>>> To: Brewtus <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> Subject: Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >>>> >>>> Hey Louis >>>> >>>> In my experience, the ability to foam milk depends on how well they are >>>> homogenised. >>>> >>>> Farm milk which is not homogenised doesn't foam very well. >>>> >>>> The Spar ultra pasteurised high fat milk is pretty awesome, I assume >>>> because the homogenisation process is more thorough on ultra pasturised >>>> milks. >>>> I also think that this may be the reason that some people prefer long life >>>> milks (even though the taste isn't great). >>>> >>>> I roast as well btw, send me your address and I will send you a bag :-) >>>> >>>> JohnB >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 9:46 AM Louis Fourie <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> What milk do you use for foaming. SPAR full cream usually worked (not the >>>>> long life), but not always. That is why I started asking around what the >>>>> cause of poor milk foaming performance could be, thinking it might be the >>>>> machine - or my technique. Have only ever watched a number of Youtube >>>>> videos and read up on the web about it - no training or real life demos. >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>>>> Behalf Of John Brinkman >>>>> Sent: Monday, 12 November 2018 08:25 >>>>> To: Brewtus <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> Subject: Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >>>>> >>>>> Joburg :-) >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 6:23 PM Louis Fourie <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> I live in The Strand, a smallish town in the Western Cape Province of >>>>>> South Africa, not far from Cape Town. >>>>>> >>>>>> And jou, John? >>>>>> >>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>>>>> Behalf Of John Brinkman >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:34 >>>>>> To: Brewtus <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >>>>>> >>>>>> Where in the world are you Louis? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 4:32 PM John Brinkman <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Yes, Brewtus Rotary with PID, not sure which version it is >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 6:19 PM Louis Fourie <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>> That's interesting. I tried out the Monroc 4-hole tip, but did not >>>>>>>> have success with that. Do you own a Brewtus? >>>>>>>> I shall certainly try to increase the steam pressure next week. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Louis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of John Brinkman >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2018 14:24 >>>>>>>> To: Brewtus <[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good luck >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I run my boiler at 1.4bar and have a 2000w (is 220V) element in it, >>>>>>>> runs a 4 hole tip like a dream. >>>>>>>> I also switched lever steam control and switched the arm to a normal >>>>>>>> arm and got rid of the cool touch one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steams like a train :-), steams 250ml of milk in +- 30 seconds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> JohnB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 2:14 PM Louis Fourie <[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi John >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your response. >>>>>>>>> I have made sure the probe is to its maximum depth, but it makes no >>>>>>>>> difference. On another forum where I asked for advice someone >>>>>>>>> suggested I should increase the pressure in the steam boiler two or >>>>>>>>> three clicks, which should make it 1,4 or 1,5 Bar. I shall try that >>>>>>>>> sometime, maybe later today. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of John Brinkman >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2018 11:30 >>>>>>>>> To: Brewtus <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would try lowering the water level in the boiler, maybe the sensor >>>>>>>>> moved out slightly which would increase the water level. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> JohnB >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 5:28 PM <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> What could be the cause of the excessive wetness of the steam on >>>>>>>>>> such a machine? The technical guy at the agents I purchased it from >>>>>>>>>> said it could be that the sensor regulating water level in the steam >>>>>>>>>> kettle allows too high a level of water in the kettle, but how can >>>>>>>>>> this came about when the machine has been making good micro foam six >>>>>>>>>> months ago and has not been tampered with in any way? When steaming >>>>>>>>>> into a vessel that has been heated with boiling water, a lot of >>>>>>>>>> water appears in the vessel, even if I let go a good, prolonged >>>>>>>>>> purging dose of steam first? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The result is that milk would not foam properly as I have become >>>>>>>>>> used to in the past almost two years since I bought the machine. I >>>>>>>>>> have tried different brands of mile, all with the same dismal >>>>>>>>>> result. 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