Try putting heavy cream, whipping cream, in with your regular milk. In my experience it doesn't froth nearly as well. For me the fat free froths better but I don't like the taste as well as whole milk so I use whole milk.
Herman On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 1:05 PM John Brinkman <[email protected]> wrote: > I live in Joburg Louis, not a visitor :-) , whats your physical address, > I will send you some coffee with the courier? > > Louis - The Spar Milk I am talking about is not their shelf life > non-refrigerated milk but the super pasteurised milk that lasts for 30 days > refrigerated. > > Benjamin - I am pretty confidant that it has to do with the homogenisation > process. Woolworths, one of our local food chains, has a code denoting the > dairy of origin on the milk carton on the same label as the use by date. I > have noticed that two of their dairy's are always froth well, the third is > always dodgy. I would guess that the reason for the inconsistency might not > be changes to the cows diet etc but rather different dairies and as such a > different homoginization process. > > The reason I believe that the low fat milks are more consistent in your > experience is because there is almost no homogenisation that needs to take > place to break the size of the cream molecules down in low fat milks > because there is no cream. I think that the large fat molecules are what > interfere with the micro-foam. > > Have absolutely no idea how to test out my theory :-) > > JohnB > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 7:07 PM Louis Fourie <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Ben >> >> Pity you won't be in my neighbourhood, would have been great to make your >> acquaintance. Enjoy your visit in any case - beautiful places (well, not >> Jo'burg, really ;-) you are planning to visit. >> >> >> >> Take care >> >> >> >> Louis >> >> >> >> *From:* 'Benjamin McCafferty' via Brewtus [mailto: >> [email protected]] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:38 >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >> >> >> >> Interesting thread, you guys. I had never considered homogenization as a >> cause, but will think about that and investigate here too! >> >> >> >> In my experience, fat content has a lot to do with it—what we call “whole >> milk” (as opposed to 2%, 1% or skim/0%—I know, I know, it’s barbaric!) has >> always given a much better silky foam with that mercury-like sheen. Lower >> fat makes a great bone-dry cappucino. >> >> >> >> One of the frustrations that I think we all face is the lack of >> consistency—the quality of the milk for foaming seems to depend on what the >> cow ate, what the weather was like that day, whether two crows flew at >> right angles to the sun, etc.! :) We get milk delivered, but even that is >> drawn from dozens of dairies around the state of Washington and so I can >> never be sure how it will be today. So I take photos of my favorites latte >> art pours, and just drink the rest… :) >> >> >> >> All the best and take good care. I’ll be down your way again next year >> (Joburg, Vic Falls, Botswana) and can’t wait to visit again! >> >> >> >> best, >> >> Ben >> >> >> >> On Nov 14, 2018, at 02:18, Louis Fourie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi John >> >> In Pretoria I used to use Dairy Belle long life and it worked very well >> in my Jura electric foamer. I acquired my Brewtus only in 2016, when we >> were in Lambert's Bay and Dairy Belle was nowhere to be found. We moved >> here in March and I cannot find Dairy Belle anywhere around - I have to >> admit I have not done a proper search yet. I shall try that SAPR high fat >> milk - that is not the long life stuff you are referring to, is it? >> >> >> >> Your offer of a bag of coffee is very kind. Let me know how much. >> >> As for my address, Postnet Somerset Mall is probably the safest place to >> send it to. You could give them my phone nr: 082 808 0476. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Louis >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *John Brinkman >> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 November 2018 10:45 >> *To:* Brewtus <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >> >> >> >> Hey Louis >> >> >> >> In my experience, the ability to foam milk depends on how well they are >> homogenised. >> >> >> >> Farm milk which is not homogenised doesn't foam very well. >> >> >> >> The Spar ultra pasteurised high fat milk is pretty awesome, I assume >> because the homogenisation process is more thorough on ultra pasturised >> milks. >> >> I also think that this may be the reason that some people prefer long >> life milks (even though the taste isn't great). >> >> >> >> I roast as well btw, send me your address and I will send you a bag :-) >> >> >> >> JohnB >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 9:46 AM Louis Fourie <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> What milk do you use for foaming. SPAR full cream usually worked (not the >> long life), but not always. That is why I started asking around what the >> cause of poor milk foaming performance could be, thinking it might be the >> machine - or my technique. Have only ever watched a number of Youtube >> videos and read up on the web about it - no training or real life demos. >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *John Brinkman >> *Sent:* Monday, 12 November 2018 08:25 >> *To:* Brewtus <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >> >> >> >> Joburg :-) >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 6:23 PM Louis Fourie <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I live in The Strand, a smallish town in the Western Cape Province of >> South Africa, not far from Cape Town. >> >> >> >> And jou, John? >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *John Brinkman >> *Sent:* Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:34 >> *To:* Brewtus <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >> >> >> >> Where in the world are you Louis? >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 4:32 PM John Brinkman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Yes, Brewtus Rotary with PID, not sure which version it is >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 6:19 PM Louis Fourie <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> That's interesting. I tried out the Monroc 4-hole tip, but did not have >> success with that. Do you own a Brewtus? >> >> I shall certainly try to increase the steam pressure next week. >> >> >> >> Louis >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *John Brinkman >> *Sent:* Saturday, 10 November 2018 14:24 >> *To:* Brewtus <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >> >> >> >> Good luck >> >> >> >> I run my boiler at 1.4bar and have a 2000w (is 220V) element in it, runs >> a 4 hole tip like a dream. >> >> I also switched lever steam control and switched the arm to a normal arm >> and got rid of the cool touch one. >> >> >> >> Steams like a train :-), steams 250ml of milk in +- 30 seconds >> >> >> >> JohnB >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 2:14 PM Louis Fourie <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi John >> >> Thanks for your response. >> >> I have made sure the probe is to its maximum depth, but it makes no >> difference. On another forum where I asked for advice someone suggested >> I should increase the pressure in the steam boiler two or three clicks, >> which should make it 1,4 or 1,5 Bar. I shall try that sometime, maybe later >> today. >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *John Brinkman >> *Sent:* Saturday, 10 November 2018 11:30 >> *To:* Brewtus <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: Wet steam from Brewtus IV >> >> >> >> I would try lowering the water level in the boiler, maybe the sensor >> moved out slightly which would increase the water level. >> >> >> >> JohnB >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 5:28 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> What could be the cause of the excessive wetness of the steam on such a >> machine? The technical guy at the agents I purchased it from said it could >> be that the sensor regulating water level in the steam kettle allows too >> high a level of water in the kettle, but how can this came about when the >> machine has been making good micro foam six months ago and has not been >> tampered with in any way? When steaming into a vessel that has been heated >> with boiling water, a lot of water appears in the vessel, even if I let go >> a good, prolonged purging dose of steam first? >> >> >> >> The result is that milk would not foam properly as I have become used to >> in the past almost two years since I bought the machine. I have tried >> different brands of mile, all with the same dismal result. 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