Now I realize the gunk around the element is just baked on thread compound. 
These didn't really have gaskets I guess. I did run resistance checks on 
both elements, steam boiler at 13 ohm and the brew boiler maybe like 40,000 
ohms.. Good reason to find an impact wrench.  I guess I'll slow down while 
I get an element ordered. Thanks again all..

On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 1:58:00 PM UTC-7 Roger wrote:

> Thanks Westi, Ira, Jpaul. Seems like an impact wrench will be needed. I'm 
> not sure if I will remove them or not yet at this point. The seal on the 
> elements look terrible, didn't seem to hold up well to heat what ever was 
> used (photo). I think is saw some and they come with teflon now. Will 
> continue with a few more descaling soaks and see what it looks like inside. 
> The Brew boiler doesn't seem as bad, but I didn't remove enough fittings 
> yet to have a look. I'll try some of basic electrical tests on the elements 
> to see if obviously open or possible short. But if i don't see anything 
> obvious, likely will just put everything back in place after descaling to 
> see what's going on overall. Not sure if best plan, but that's my direction 
> for now. Was just researching the different acids typically used and 
> effects on copper and different rubbers. Sometimes a little worried of 
> metal corrosion if left to soak at too high of a concentration. I saw one 
> reference "chemical resistance guide for valves and fittings" that 
> indicates acetic or citric are not great for copper. The citric 
> concentration said saturated though (60%w/w) and acetic at 25%.  Typically 
> would only use maybe 5-10%. Salfamic acid it says is ok for copper at 20%. 
> Still not sure what is best from this info.. people use both. I'm trying 
> salfamic for nowI know if they use these in big sensitive systems they will 
> add a corrosion inhibitor with the Citric or Salfamic. Well have to think 
> i've spent 20 hours on this all in all.. Back too it.. [image: 
> PXL_20210318_055833496.jpg]
>
> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 12:04:56 PM UTC-7 jpaul wrote:
>
>> I’ve removed the heating element out of B2 and the key was an impact 
>> wrench.  Heating may help but since the element is threaded into the 
>> boiler, not sure nut buster heating will help.  Seems Crem used a very 
>> sturdy sealant/glue when assembling.  It required significant force to 
>> break free.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *
>> Ira
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 11:51 AM
>> *To:* RW <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: Picked up a Brewtus II. Tips on troubleshooting.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hello RW,
>>
>> Thursday, March 18, 2021, 10:43:49 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> hinking what's would be the best way to remove the elements with the 
>> boilers out. Don't have a vise..
>>
>>
>> Never done it, but seems the answer is 1/2" impact wrench. Something I 
>> did when I was descaling my 2 group Rancilio was connect the 230V to 110V 
>> so the solution stayed warm for in my case days. I wonder if connecting the 
>> elements in series on the Brewtus might accomplish the same thing, though 
>> it might still get to hot. On the Rancilio there were 3 elements and I only 
>> used one or two to keep it warm.
>>
>> -- Ira
>>
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