Hi Mark,

I just had to deal with control board problem. Dont' be intimidated its a 
really simple thing. The control board exists to manage state, to make sure 
steam boiler is full before heat is applied.

I'm sorry I might have some of this wrong but its on the right track. I 
dont' have my machine open to trace the wires 

The first way that pump can run is if its getting the signal from the brew 
lever. There's a button switch behind the brew lever cam that might be 
manked and squished and telling the pump to always run. I think that 
happened to mine once 5+ years ago. I got a new one, took old one apart and 
inside it was a ball of ruined metal. So first check that your brew switch 
is switching, and not stuck 'on'.

The control board is pretty simple,  its entire operation can be described 
with a few simple phrases like:

1) If the boiler isn't full then the control board sends current to fill 
solenoid and runs the pump.
2) If boiler is full then the control board sends current to the pstat and 
eventually the steam heat element.

Since your pump is running it might mean control board is getting wrong 
signal from steam fill, or it might be your boiler isn't filling.

I once had a clog at the end of the pipe at the bottom of the steam boiler. 
The little copper pipe that goes from bottom of steam boiler to... bottom 
of steam boiler. Thats the passage from steam tank to heat exchanger tube 
thats inside the steam boiler. If its plugged the steam boiler can't fill 
so control board will constantly request water.

My relay was welded in the pump fill position but pump only ran until 
boiler was full. Makes me think your problem is not control board. 

Two things I'd like to know:
Do you know if your steam boiler is actually filling?
Check the signal from the fill sensor?


On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:

> hi Ira,  
>
> took some pictures of the Giemme control board this weekend.  Tested the 
> pins underneath for the transformer,  122 V and 31 V AC.   The board has 
> input 115 V and output 18 V.     The input seems right and output is higher 
> than expected (given my Fluke multimeter is a little off and needs 
> adjusting) .  The history is my machine started shorting/tripping the 
> circuit.   I opened up the machine and noticed the burned out smell.   It 
> was from the pump so I replaced this.  Now when turning on machine the pump 
> runs continuously.  I also took apart the steam boiler and solenoid that 
> fills it to check for blockage but didn't find any.  So the control board 
> should be the culprit; hard to find.
>  
>   thanks for any advice,
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 7:23 PM Ira <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Mark,
>>
>>
>> Thursday, September 22, 2022, 3:03:32 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> hi Ira,   that picture isn't from my machine.   I found the thread after 
>> joining the Brewtus group and searching.  But I'm pretty certain the 
>> control board for my Brewtus II is bad (pump runs continously), tested 
>> other parts in machine, etc.   Don't have a picture as I'm at work but can 
>> get one.  it's a Giemme EX-60100210 with 8 connectors. Nothing showing 
>> burned out.  Willing to test with a multimeter if you want to have me 
>> check.   May need to do this over the weekend but please let know.
>>
>>
>> I would like to know the voltage coming out of the transformer mounted on 
>> the board inside the controller. Should be 117V on one side and 15V or 18V 
>> AC on the output. The transformer is the part that goes out the most 
>> followed by relays or the bridge rectifier.
>>
>>
>> -- Ira
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