In a message dated 10/30/00 7:13:25 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> I'm going to let Michael's words stand for himself , as with some
> extraneous material deleted, I could not help but laughing.
> 
<snip>

>Again, resorting to insults rather than discussing the issues.

> 
> He then wrote:
> 
> > I'm sure you would 
> >probably have no problem letting businesses poison the air, water, land,
> etc. 
> >until they destroy the ecosystem that supports us, and kill us and 
> hundreds 
> >if not thousands of other species in the process.  I'm sure that that
> doesn't 
> >bother you at all, even though the thought of two people of the same sex 
> >having relations does bother you.
> 
> And incredibly followed it up with:
> 
> >Now, I admit that I don't really know your stance on those issues,
> 
> JDG
> 

I do not like twisting people's words by cutting them off midsentence.  The 
context here is totally blown by cutting off the end of that sentence.  Like 
someone saying, "Sure, I'll give you a million dollars... when pigs fly."  
Cut off the end of that sentence and the meaning changes entirely.  You do 
yourself no favors in doing this as this only earns you enemies.  Reminds me 
much of the Brin incident...  I highly recommend you stop twisting words and 
start quoting whole sentences in the future.

I was discussing policy in that paragraph.  The policy of the Republican and 
Democratic parties (which people would have seen had you not snipped the last 
line midsentence).  If you consider that an attack on you, you need only do 
something significant to benefit the environment to counter it.  If you 
really don't give a damn about the environment or the future, then hey, no 
attack there, just a statement of fact.  It wasn't meant as a personal 
attack, but I dare say your comment about *all* greens being "lunatics" was.  
I take a high level of offense at that, and I think I am showing incredible 
restraint in consideration of that... us lunatics usually do something much 
more drastic than just speek a little harshly.  I remember someone on list 
comparing me to the Unabomber a few years back... that is a lunatic.  I'm 
just a citizen who is sick and tired of watching government and industry walk 
all over the environment.  I show my detest for those by voting for Nader, 
not by commiting illegal acts as the *small* *minority* of environmentalists 
sometimes do.  But NO, since these "lunatics" get the most publicity, every 
right-winged person in the nation thinks all strong-willed environmentalists 
are like that.  I'm a little surprised anyone on this list would not just be 
so close-minded as to believe such stereotypes, but also be so arrogant as to 
promote them.

Michael Harney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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