William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>A mind isn't a clean formal system with a Godel sentence to send it into a
>recursive tailspin, it is a mess of dirty competing heuristics.

And even that might be giving it undue credit. There's a section in 
Kurzweil's "The Age of Spiritual Machines" which talks about our initial 
attempts to probe how the brain processes data, and describes pinwheel-like 
image processing structures (logical, not physical). Lovely potential for 
bits of fractal and/or L-System type expression.

I have to chuckle whenever I read statements like "the human mind must 
transcend the limitations of the universe, if we can defeat things like 
Godel's theorems". Or we're just reasonably efficient filters of random crap 
that - after much training - approximates things like following logical 
progressions. Thus, leaping to conclusions is easy. We guess wildly and 
filter out the bad crap. Creativity is, IMHO, merely a matter of having 
trained filters (which is why even artists usually go to school) and a good 
source of random crap.

Joshua

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