At 10:01 PM 5/26/01 +0200 Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
>Since my substantiated and to the point responses as usual get cut down by
you
>personally insulting me I don't see the point in repetition of the
contents of any
>of my former posts.
Fair enough. I will not slice anything from this response.
>It's not that my opinion has changed just because you doubt my
>intelligence and you apperently aren't able to properly interpret what I
wrote in
>response to previous posts of yours. I've asked a few times already if you
think
>that you have a justified right to be arrogant or if you are merely very
proud.
>All I got in response untill now are a few insults and still no straight
answer.
No - I have repeatedly said that I am not discussing whether arrogance is
*justified* - and I am not going to break that now. The topic of
self-righteousness was just discussed a month of two ago, and I have no
desire to re-open it when there are so many other issues to discuss. So,
on that issue - I am remaining agnostic.
The proposition put forth is whether or not Americans have *reason* to be
arrogant. I have argued that, presuming that arrogance exists, there do
appear to be reasons.
I have stated this in the plainest terms I know at least three times (and
now this counts as a fourth.) Dan Minette did an excellent job of
interpreting what I was saying as well - a post I have referred you to at
least once.
Now, if you are truly interested in a debate as to whether or not arrogance
is justified, the closest I can offer you right now is a debate on whether
or not America is not merely good, but is great. See my post entitled
"America: Not Just Another Country."
>But if you insist my opinion can be condensed as follows: I don't think
that any
>US citizen has any justification whatsoever for the obviously displayed
contempt
>for and arrogance against other nationalities.
If that is your condensed opinion - then you have been wasting your energy
arguing an issue that nobody else is discussing.
>Even if you'd add a list of
>accomplishments attributed solely to the US that would be twice as long I
still
>think that it's not a justification to get so loud and self appraising.
Others
>have discovered and achieved just as much or even more.
JDG
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to check each other." -Andrew Sullivan 01/29/01
