At 12:37 AM 6/3/01 +0200 Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
>"John D. Giorgis" schreef:
>
>> At 02:20 PM 6/1/01 +0200 Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
>> >Running across repetitions of statements by Americans like 'we founded the
>> >united nations'
>>
>> Do you care to argue that we didn't? Or do you think the fact that the
>> UN Treaty was signed in San Francisco and that the UN is based in NY are
>> both just coincidences?
>
><sarcastic mode>
>OK, so according to you the US s i n g l e h a n d e d l y founded the UN.
>Great accomplishment.
></sarcastic mode>
>
>Unfortunately it's not quite what I got from their history site. (Seems like
>the UN is a little less arogant and a bit more sensitive about sharing
fame and
>glory then you are John). It states that 20 nations and 50 countries (51
if you
>count Polland) had a part in founding it. But hey who cares about the
details,
>right?
>
>http://www.un.org/aboutun/history.htm
A very serious question for you, Sonja - Are you really so blinded by your
vitriolic desire to tear down every accomplishment of the USA that you so
literally can't see the forest through all of the trees blocking your
viewpoint?
OF COURSE 50 countries were there at the signing of the United Nations.
BY DEFINITION, the USA couldn't found a United Nations with itself as the
only member. Duh!
The most ironic thing, of course, is that even the very link you cited
gives Franklin Delano Roosevelt credit for inventing the term "United
Nations" in an original declaration issued in 1942.
Once again, do you think that it is pure coincidence that the UN Charter
was written at a Conference in San Francisco, and that the UN HQ is in New
York City?
Do you think that the United Nations would have been founded without
Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and the United States?
Do you have any evidence whatsoever that another country acted as the
driving force behind the creation of the United Nations?
JDG
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