--- Christopher Gwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dean Forster wrote:
> {snip}
> > FWIW, I believe that the key is to allow everyone
> more
> > freedom, instead of less as some of the more
> > socialist-minded among us promote.
> uh, i've always seen things that get called
> 'socialist' as producing
> more freedom, not less. the freedom to retire, the
> freedom to see a
> doctor, the freedom to get more education, the
> freedom ot not starve,
> etc., etc. i'm perfectly willing to use 'free
> market' and
> 'individualist methods' towards those social goals -
> but they remain
> social goals, not individual ones.
>
Before you lump me in with the selfish and extreme
darwinist libertarians, i'd like to say that I
personally believe in moderation socially. You don't
have to give up your freedoms or choices in society to
be part of a healthy society.
What you call freedom ain't free. Shall we compare
how much of a given 'socialist' country's (your pick)
money gets eaten up in governmental red tape as
compared to where the money goes in the more heavily
private sector services provided in the US? How about
the quality and availability of those same services?
dean
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