Dean Forster wrote:
> Before you lump me in with the selfish and extreme
> darwinist libertarians, i'd like to say that I
> personally believe in moderation socially. 
        i had not intention of performing such lumpen.

> You don't
> have to give up your freedoms or choices in society to
> be part of a healthy society.
        i should hope not!

> What you call freedom ain't free. 
        B******t.

> Shall we compare
> how much of a given 'socialist' country's (your pick)
        ok - i'll pick the United States of America, one of my favourites.

> money gets eaten up in governmental red tape as
> compared to where the money goes in the more heavily
> private sector services provided in the US?  How about
> the quality and availability of those same services?
        are you happy with your medical care? do you get enough to eat? do
you have opportunities for further education? etc.... do you feel
that the ways that you receive those opportunities are reasonable?
would you like to change those methods in some ways? how would you go
about generalizing your favoured solutions so that everyone is able
to receive the same benefits as you? (remember 'fee-for-service'
medical care is 'socialized medical care' when everyone in society
has enough money to pay the physician. but if there are people who
are 'following the rules' and 'working hard' who can't afford to pay
the physician then something else still needs to be done.)

        cheers,
        christopher
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Christopher Gwyn
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