On 18 Jul 2001, at 23:48, K.Feete wrote:

> >So new cars cost a bit more...people WILL accept that, and the 
> >befefits will filter down through the years as a greater and greater
> >percentage HAVE fuel cells..
> >
> Yup. Compromise is a fine, if not a particularly fufilling, art. I
> greatly admire those who have mastered it.

Oh, I certainly haven't..heh. I'm passing on ideas which I hear. 
Peronsally, I'm more a "burn the capitalists at the stake" type, 
which is why I try to avoid too much public comment about my 
enviromentalism (going into a rant DOES put ppl off..)
 
> (Cool question of my dad's: how many ecosystems are there?)

Lots. Onely one ecoweb tho, the world as a whole.
 
> >Uh-huh. You mean the whackos who riot every time world 
leaders 
> >meet? Sorry, all THEY do is give themselves (and since some 
are
> >greeners, enviromentalism!) a bad name.
> 
> Actually, from what I've heard, it's more the media giving them a bad
> name. I remember listening to NPR during the Seattle protests: they
> kept talking about "the violence of the riots" "the violent rioters"

eh, in Europe it HAS been bad, and there's been real trouble. I 
don't know about the riots in America.
 
> At any rate, I support planned protest. Make lots of noise. Why not?
> Sooner or later people will have to pay attention. If you don't
> believe that, look at what was said about the unions earlier this
> century.

Not when you smash a city center to pieces, sorry, no that dosn't 
work. It makes enviromentalism look extreme, and drives people 
away.

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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