At 04:17 PM 7/20/01 -0500 Dan Minette wrote:
>> To quote Alfred, Lort Tennyson "science is trained and ordered common
>sense."
>>
>
>Well, I strongly differ with that.  QM and common sense are at odds, for
>example.

Bzzt.  Thanks for playing.   

The Laws of QM were derived from common sense, even if the superficial
understanding of them don't fit common sense.  

Anyhow, I'd love to see *your* definition of science that includes all
branches of Physics yet excludes Economics.  

>> You can't define a science based on the ability of its most trained
>members
>> to make predictions.  That definition is unworkable.
>
>Why?  If there are a thousand paradigms and none have preditive ability, I
>would argue that its not much of a science.  Otherwise, one could count
>astrology as a science.

So, when physicists fail to predict things they are no longer scientists?

Yet, didn't two guys by the names of Michelson and Morely produce one of
the grandest physics experiments of all time, all the while making a
*wrong* prediction?

Sorry, Dan, but your definition does not hold up.

JDG

P.S. Does Geology qualify as a science where you come from?   
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