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> Behalf Of Dan Minette

> But, I will agree with other posters on one point: we really need a real
> alternative to discuss.  Of course something might be better, but its hard
> to implement a vague something.

That's certainly a fair request, but it seemed to be difficult to get past
the reactions to the idea that democratic capitalism is reaching its limits.
Human nature being what it is, we generally don't look for new solutions
until we see a real problem.  Did the Renaissance and Reformation just
happen because of progress of thinking, or did it happen because people
became fed up with popes and kings  and decided to do something about them,
despite the obvious paradoxes?  The problem had to become very bad before
people rebelled against the system that gave popes and kings authority.

On the other hand, where Christianity is concerned, one certainly is called
to get to know the solution (God) in order to understand the problem
(separation from God), rather than becoming an expert on a problem in order
to find a solution.  And that's what off-putting to many people about the
phrase, "God is the answer," I believe, which leads to the sarcastic, "Then
what's the question?"

Maybe I'm trying to serve two masters, but I'm trying to bridge religion and
science here, or at least think intelligently about their relationship,
which is why Kat's posting yesterday grabbed me.

Nick

P.S.  Dan, I sent you a private e-mail yesterday and got one warning message
from your server.  Did it ever get through?

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