At 01:03 PM 8/1/01 +0200 Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLBD/BGM/SVM/SGM wrote:
>If they had all "swung away from socialism" they would have
>ditched those horrible socialist programs as well and probably have turned
>into "every man for himself" societies.
I'm using "swung away" in the meaning of "the amount of socialism has been
decreasing."
>I'll admit that those countries have moved towards the right in the last few
>decades, but that doesn't mean they have betrayed everything they once
>believed in.
No, not everything. After all, even the United States has guarantees of
pension, medical care, and education.
The second point was sort of a refined one, about *large-scale* socialism.
The first one will be much easier for us to argue.
JDG
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