At 09:40 25-8-01 -0500, Marvin Long wrote:

> > I believe I have offered ample clarification. Since I did not issue any
> > threats (even though some people misinterpret my statement as such), I see
> > no reason for apology -- why apologize for a threat I didn't make?
>
>Two reasons (and this is just my opinion, btw):
>
>1) Because in the eyes of many of your readers, including Zimmy, you *did*
>make the threat.  Given more time to consider and a chance to read your
>clarification, I'm pretty those readers have changed their original
>evaluation of your words.  But they're your words, and you are responsible
>for them.

True, but it is not my fault that certain members refuse to accept my 
clarification, simply because the real meaning differs from their own 
(proven-wrong) interpretation.


>History -- Jeroen, you have a many-years-long history of trying to
>promote and strengthen Brin-L as a list and as a community. The three
>examples you gave Dan, in which a member asked for help and you told him
>how to unsubscribe, support that view of your general helpfulness because
>after all, a listmember asked for help and you provided it.
>
>However, Zimmy's case isn't similar to the examples you gave Dan because
>Zimmy did not ask for help in unsubscribing.

As I have shown in an other post, the various cases *are* similar.


>It's obvious to me from his
>words that if he's considering leaving Brin-L, it's not because he wants
>to go as such.  Rather, it's because he feels something you said may
>compel him to leave.  That is, most readers would look at Zimmy's words
>and deduce not that he wants to unsubscribe for its own sake, but that he
>may feel *forced* to unsubscribe by the actions of another listmember.

Ah yes, try to blame it on me. Nice try, but it will not work. Bob said he 
would consider leaving, after I pointed out to him that unfounded 
accusations can get a person in legal trouble. It is not my fault that he 
can not accept it when someone points out to him that he is showing 
unwanted behaviour.


Jeroen

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