> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:44 AM > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Race Bomb Redux?
> Do you _really_ want to rehash the Race Bomb thread? In this thread > certain people from the Netherlands insisted that Israel was > developing a race bomb that kills only Arabs but not Jews. They > wouldn't believe anything that people trained in biology said about > how impossible that was...for reasons only they could give. I am not > sure what J wrote and what S wrote, because I didn't keep 3 year old > posts and only titles are available from that far back on yahoo groups. Recently, Bob Zimmerman made a claim about me, based on his memory of this list's past. He was proven wrong. I would think that this had taught you not to make claims about people, based solely on your imperfect memory of this list's past and posts you do not have a copy of -- especially when someone who *does* have those old posts is also one of the people targeted. It saddens me to see you did not learn... :-( I took a dive into my archive, and resurfaced with this: At 06:50 PM 11/23/1998 +0000, Sonja wrote: > To [EMAIL PROTECTED] who wrote: > > I suggest you take a trip to Dachau and see for yourself what the > > Nazis did and then ask yourself if Israel has ever done anything that > > approaches this horror. > Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they the ones using information from > the South-African apartheidsregime. I seem to have read about it a week > ago. > They are trying to develop a new type of bomb (Ethnic bacterial or > virological I believe) and are even proud of the fact that they already > found some typical Arab and luckily non-Jewish genes they could use to > make the bacterium or virus attack. So now I'm really absolutely very > scared. Could be some typical anti-simitic propaganda, but it seemed to > have been commented on by Israeli scientists who confirmed the part of > identifying a typical Arab and specifically non-Jewish feature. In a later post, Sonja mentioned an article in the UK newspaper "Sunday Times" (published Nov. 16th, 1998, and apparently translated en reprinted in a Dutch newspaper) as her source of information (after feeling offended because people resorted to accusations of anti-semitism and Nazism, rather than asking for the source of that information): (I have snipped the Dutch text, and only quoted Sonja's translation.) At 04:47 PM 11/25/1998 +0000, Sonja wrote: > Yesterday Israel didn't comment on an article in the British Sunday > Times claiming that it is working on a biological weapen that would > kill Arabs but not Jews. > The 'ethnic bomb' is supposed to be developed in the ultrasecret > defence laboratory Ness Ziona south of Tel Aviv. The paper calls > Israeli en Western experts as it's source. > One of these sources, an Israelyte scientist claims that, an in Iraki > people frequently occuring genetic profile has been identified. This > bomb wil be the answer to Irak chemical and biological threads > according to the Sunday Times. The fact that because of their common > semitic origin Arabs and Jews have almost identical genes poses a > problem. > The american ministery of defense is supposed to have warned Israel > already that the development of this wapen, also infused by similar > accusations that South-Africa at the time of the apartheidregime was > planning on producing a similar weapen. So, Dan, as you can see, Sonja was not *insisting* that Israel was developing a "race bomb". (And neither was I.) She informed us about something she had read in a newspaper. The only thing that could have reasonably been held against her is that she did not mention the actual source in the first message. Now, please refrain from making false claims about people, based on what you remember of past discussions, if you do not have the actual posts to back your claims. Thank you. If you want to know if someone said <whatever> on-list, just ask me off-list; I will be more than happy to do an archive search for you. > Finally, let me point out, that the private message that you quoted > (and it was private...you know...not to be printed publically...because > I was trying to be polite) was very careful to state that your writings > are anti-Semitic, not you. When someone writes Nazi propaganda, it is reasonable to assume that the author supports Nazism. When someone writes pro-communist articles, it is reasonable to assume that the author is a communist. When someone writes "George W. Bush is a great president", it is reasonable to assume that the author is a Republican. By that same reasoning, when you call my writings anti-Semitic, it is reasonable to assume you think I am an anti-Semite. Jeroen _________________________________________________________________________ Wonderful World of Brin-L Website: http://go.to/brin-l
