----- Original Message -----
From: "Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: Race Bomb Redux?



>
> > The american ministery of defense is supposed to have warned Israel
> > already that the development of this wapen, also infused by similar
> > accusations that South-Africa at the time of the apartheidregime was
> > planning on producing a similar weapen.
>
>
> So, Dan, as you can see, Sonja was not *insisting* that Israel was
> developing a "race bomb". (And neither was I.) She informed us about
> something she had read in a newspaper. The only thing that could have
> reasonably been held against her is that she did not mention the actual
> source in the first message.
>

The thread went on for about three weeks, with somewhere in the neighborhood
of 100 posts from Nov 14 on having the words "Race Bomb" in them.  Why?
Y'all were quickly told that a race bomb  was impossible.  If y'all said
"whoops, I guess we were wrong, that was anti-Semitic nonsense,  then the
thread would have stopped immediately.

> Now, please refrain from making false claims about people, based on what
you
> remember of past discussions, if you do not have the actual posts to back
> your claims. Thank you.
>
> If you want to know if someone said <whatever> on-list, just ask me
> off-list; I will be more than happy to do an archive search for you.
>
>

Right, I'm suppose to trust you to give me posts which show you to be wrong.
:-)

>
> When someone writes Nazi propaganda, it is reasonable to assume that the
> author supports Nazism. When someone writes pro-communist articles, it is
> reasonable to assume that the author is a communist. When someone writes
> "George W. Bush is a great president", it is reasonable to assume that the
> author is a Republican.
>
> By that same reasoning, when you call my writings anti-Semitic, it is
> reasonable to assume you think I am an anti-Semite.
>

I wrote a specific post about that back when...trying to give you an
out....which you wouldn't take.  That is you have accidentally taken up a
anti-Semitic meme because it came from a source that seemed trustworthy.
Also, there is the etiquette thing about attacking posts, and not people.
(BTW, making private email public is also against all internet
etiquette...even Usenet folks usually follow that rule). The Race Bomb
nonsense was an anti-Semitic meme that got published.  You don't know how
scary it is that nonsense like that can make it into European papers that
are read and accepted as truth.  I'd like to suggest that's part of the
reason why the Jewish population in your neck of the woods is so low.


If I really need to provide documentation on this, I'll have to lean on
someone I can trust to get the posts, I guess.
Finally, if the rest of the folks yell that they don't want this rehashed,
I'll refrain from the analysis of old posts  for their sakes.  In that case,
I think people can assume that the validity of everyone's position  is about
the same as it was in the discussion of Jeroen's response to Zimmy a while
back.  Those who remember the thread can correct Jeroen and me on this.


Dan M.

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