> From: Adam C. Lipscomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "The Fool" wrote: > > The entire reason hitler > > didn't dare go into switzerland was the number of guns they had. > > I think the cushy banking arrangements the Swiss had with the Nazis had as > much if not more to do with that.
Probably. > > > When the government starts making moral judgments about your email and > > > surfing habits, then they have gone too far and you have something to > > > complain about. > > > > Who says you'll know when they've made judgements about you. You just > > get put in a database of people to be...dealt with. People to disapear, > > or have fatal accidents, or... > > Can you back this up right now with facts and figures? No it is a logical sequence. See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html > > > Personally, I am willing to give up some of my "perceived" freedoms to > > > protect my children and the ones I love from more terrorist attacks. I > > am > > > sure that there are those out there that would disagree with this, but > > I am > > > also sure that there are 7000+ people's families and friends in New > > York and > > > worldwide that WOULD agree with this. > > > > But giving up your rights is exactly what the terrorist want. You want > > them to win. > > Bzzzzt. Wrong. Looking at the apparent motives of the terrorists involved > in the attack on 9/11 (assuming, as the evidence seems to indicate, that > they're connected with Bin Laden), they don't care about our freedoms or our > nation, except that we are (a) stationing infidel soldiers in Saudi Arabia, > site of Mecca and Medina, (b) we're, according to them, engaged in a war of > destruction aimed at wiping Islam from the Earth and (c) supporters of > Israel. Excuses. They care nothing for Isreal or Saudi Arabia. They are only interested in creating a world-wide religious war between Christians/Jews and Islam. They are in the same group of nuts who think they can help bring about armageddon. > > > At this point, two weeks after the terrorist attacks, you have to ask > > > yourself what is more important, freedom or security? Guess what, > > terrorist > > > in the US at this very moment have the very same freedoms that we do. > > Are > > > you willing to temporarily give up some of those freedoms to help > > ensure the > > > safety of your family and children? If you are not, I think that I > > would be > > > worried. > > > > No. Because once rights are gone, they never come back (cept alcohol). > > Well, the right to meet privately with Blacks was taken away in Alabama > during the 1950's and 60's. I know this, because my father almost got > arrested for this when he was in college. No one in Alabama cares about > that now. > > Rights of Habeas Corpus and some free speech were temporarily removed during > the Civil War and WWII, and they're back now. > > I could probably list another 30-40 rights we enjoy now that we didn't even > a scant 40 years ago. > > Those 3 examples (alcohol, and the two I listed) are a good indication that > your claim is false. > > Distrust of government is good, unreasoning paranoia is foolish.
