> From: Adam C. Lipscomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "The Fool" (probably a Cabbage Or Something In Disguise) wrote: > > > > Who says you'll know when they've made judgements about you. You just > > > > get put in a database of people to be...dealt with. People to > disapear, > > > > or have fatal accidents, or... > > > > > > Can you back this up right now with facts and figures? > > > > No it is a logical sequence. See: > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html > > Slippery-slopism. I won't say it's impossible, but I'm leery of any > argument that begins with a semi-hysterical piece of fiction.
It is taking an argument to it's logical extreme, in order to prevent that scenario from occurring. Who says people haven't been disappeared? It's entirely possible. Considering that this is the same government that infected some 60 black men with a fatal infectious disease and then never allowed them to get treatment (to study the disease of course), kind of makes you wonder. > It smacks too much of the "If we allow gay marriages now, we'll be allowing > people to marry animals next year!" argument. At any rate, your link > doesn't really have any bearing on your claim that everyone that opposes > these nebulous forces you mention will be disappeared. > > > > Bzzzzt. Wrong. Looking at the apparent motives of the terrorists > involved > > > in the attack on 9/11 (assuming, as the evidence seems to indicate, that > > > they're connected with Bin Laden), they don't care about our freedoms or > our > > > nation, except that we are (a) stationing infidel soldiers in Saudi > Arabia, > > > site of Mecca and Medina, (b) we're, according to them, engaged in a war > of > > > destruction aimed at wiping Islam from the Earth and (c) supporters of > Israel. > > > > Excuses. They care nothing for Isreal or Saudi Arabia. They are only > > interested in creating a world-wide religious war between Christians/Jews > > and Islam. They are in the same group of nuts who think they can help > > bring about armageddon. > > Could you please point me to the links indicating that Al Queda has the > specific goals of (a) starting a war between Christians/Jews and Islam and > (b) bringing about Armageddon? Just read the propaganda. Here are a few links (I am not keeping track of every article I read): http://www.rense.com/general14/statement.htm http://www.rense.com/general14/calls.htm http://www.rense.com/general13/duty.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/monitoring/media_reports/newsid_157 9000/1579189.stm If I tried really hard I could come up with a lot more, but I am busy and lazy. > > > > No. Because once rights are gone, they never come back (cept > alcohol). > > > > > > Well, the right to meet privately with Blacks was taken away in Alabama > > > during the 1950's and 60's. I know this, because my father almost got > > > arrested for this when he was in college. No one in Alabama cares about > > > that now. > > > > > > Rights of Habeas Corpus and some free speech were temporarily removed > during > > > the Civil War and WWII, and they're back now. > > > > > > I could probably list another 30-40 rights we enjoy now that we didn't > even > > > a scant 40 years ago. > > > > > > Those 3 examples (alcohol, and the two I listed) are a good indication > that > > > your claim is false. > > Given your lack of response to the above, can I take it that you accept the > examples I've given as debunking your claim? I would like to see these forty or so rights that I have but didn't before. > > > > > > Distrust of government is good, unreasoning paranoia is foolish. --Kneem "I'll teach you how to escape death. ...there is a raven in the eastern sea which is called Yitai ("dull-head"). This dull-head cannot fly very high and seems very stupid. It hops only a short distance and nestles close with others of its kind. In going forward, it dare not lead, and in going back, it dare not lag behind. At the time of feeding, it takes what is left over by the other birds. Therefore, the ranks of this bird are never depleted and nobody can do them any harm. A tree with a straight trunk is the first to be chopped down. A well with sweet water is the first to be drawn dry." -Taikung Jen (in a conversation with Confucius)
