> From: Trent Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > At this point, two weeks after the terrorist attacks, you have to ask
> > yourself what is more important, freedom or security? Guess what,
terrorist
> > in the US at this very moment have the very same freedoms that we do.
Are
> > you willing to temporarily give up some of those freedoms to help
ensure
> > the safety of your family and children? If you are not, I think that
I
> > would be worried.
> 
> Freedom is more important than security: full-stop.

Exactly.

> There is no point in going to war to protect freedoms that have been 
> bargained away to stay cozy and secure.   If you want to be safe just 
> capitulate.
> 
> As for the ACLU: we live in a society with an adversarial court system.
 It 
> is not the role of the ACLU to be right (though often they are), it is
their 
> job to make unpopular arguments.
> 
> As for reason:  In time of war some freedoms are always traded away for

> security; but even in WWII be managed not to suspend the Bill of
Rights.  Our 
> current situation is not as serious as that in the 1940's ... at least
not 
> yet.   
> 
> Face recognition software doesn't bother me though.  I regard my
personal 
> appearance as a publically accessible attribute.  You are free to
collect any 
> data you want in public.  How you process it is your (possibly
lucrative) 
> business.  However, I would be a bit alarmed and annoyed if the NSA
decided 
> to put digital cameras on every downtown public sidewalk.  However, the
local 
> police doing so would worry me less. 

Face Recongition is so poor that to catch 90% of suspected terrorists at
airports, 33% of the people will have triggered an alarm.

Face recognition is very orwellian.  You can't go anywhere in england
without being on some sort of closedcurcuit camera.

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