In a message dated 12/5/01 6:23:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Verzonden: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 01:46
> > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Onderwerp: Re: Tragedy in Israel
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> > > > Minor quibble - despite the best efforts of the current US
> > > > President, the United States is not a Christian country.
> > >
> > > That is not how it looks from outside the US. Let?s see. You let your
> > > children pledge allegiance to the flag every school day. Quote from
> > > that pledge: "one nation, under God". A quite large area of the US is
> >
> > "One nation under God" was added to the pledge in a stupid attempt to
> > fight athiest commies. Was this in the 50s? Anyone?
>
> Well, now that the threat of atheist commies is gone (assuming that threat
> was ever real), would it not be about time to remove that phrase from the
> pledge?
>
There is indeed movement in that direction. But the "pledge" is very
unofficial, so its up to locals to change it as they see fit >>

And the movement may go nowhere except in liberal areas of the country 
because the idea may be viewed as anti-American.  Removing "under God" from a 
pledge of Allegiance might be viewed by some as anti-American, but this 
shouldn't be a surprise if you understand our history. 

Jeroen, you might consider reading any piece of US currency.  It says "In God 
We Trust".  Re-read the major founding US documents: Declaration of 
Independence or the US Constitution.  The phrase "under God" may have been 
added in the 50's, but it comes from a much older tradition in this country 
of Judeo-Christian values.  And, I'm re-iterating myself here... this country 
was founded on and by extension its founding laws were designed around 
Judeo-Christian values.  But our laws are secular ones that do not interfere 
with, promote or attack any religion.  

Jon

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