In a message dated 12/5/2001 9:44:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I disagree on one point. Instead of Judeo/christian values, I would claim
self-evident values. But it likely depends on the specific instance which
would apply.



"Self evident" in principle sounds fine to me, but then, what's self-evident to one might not be to another.  Also, our value systems have changed in the last 200 years (slavery is a glaring example.)

Ah well, it's late.  Perhaps I'm nitpicking ;)
Jon

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