On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 10:34:54AM +0100, Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO wrote:
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Verzonden: woensdag 23 januari 2002 19:01
> > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Onderwerp: Re: Dutch & US Media
> 
> > > The statement made by that reporter is not necessarily false. The
> > > fact that such statements are not *typical* of the Dutch media does
> > > not mean that such statements are always by definition false.
> > 
> > If it is true, then the logical conclusion from your statements is that
> > you believe that the Dutch media is either incompetent or censoring,
> > since it would be untypical for them to report a true statement that
> > has far reacing consequences for the world.
> 
> If the statement is true, then the logical conclusion is that the Dutch
> media are neither incompetent nor censoring.
> 
> If the statement is false, then the logical conclusion is that the reporter
> got his information wrong, not that the Dutch media are incompetent or
> censoring, because, being Dutch myself, I *know* that they are neither
> incompetent nor censoring.
> 

I wonder if your impersonation skills are better than this "logic"? I
hope so, because the logic needs some work.

The statement under consideration is either true or false. That a Dutch
media agent made the statement is either typical of Dutch media or
atypical.  That makes 4 possibilities.

1) true/typical: the Dutch media is good and America is evil

2) false/typical: the Dutch media is in the habit of making false
statements

3) false/atypical: everyone makes an occasional mistake, including the
Dutch media and Jeroen

4) true/atypical: the Dutch media only rarely reports true statements
that have far-reaching world consequences (goodness knows what they
typically report on)

Remember, you have denied that #1 and #2 are the case. So your choices
are #3 or #4. Or choice #5, which is retreat to a world of twisted
logic, which is my prediction, since it seems to happen frequently.


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"Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>       http://www.erikreuter.com/

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