> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: donderdag 24 januari 2002 14:21
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp: Re: Dutch & US Media
> The statement under consideration is either true or false. That a
> Dutch media agent made the statement is either typical of Dutch media
> or atypical. That makes 4 possibilities.
>
> 1) true/typical: the Dutch media is good and America is evil
>
> 2) false/typical: the Dutch media is in the habit of making false
> statements
>
> 3) false/atypical: everyone makes an occasional mistake, including the
> Dutch media and Jeroen
>
> 4) true/atypical: the Dutch media only rarely reports true statements
> that have far-reaching world consequences (goodness knows what they
> typically report on)
>
> Remember, you have denied that #1 and #2 are the case. So your choices
> are #3 or #4.
I doubt that any media organisation often makes reports that have such a big
impact -- mostly, they will be reporting that someone else did something
that has such a big impact. Example: CNN reported that GWB had declared war
on terrorism, but it is GWB's statement, not CNN's report, that has a big
impact.
Further, it is debatable whether or not the statement was true or false.
Americans claim it is false and there was never any violation of human
rights, but at the same time the rest of the world did suspect violations
were happening. Amnesty International still does.
This leads us to the only valid choice, #6: the statement is probably true,
the Dutch media is in the business of reporting the truth, and media
worldwide rarely make reports with far-reaching world consequences.
> Or choice #5, which is retreat to a world of twisted logic, which is
> my prediction, since it seems to happen frequently.
Oh well, what is one more insult in the barrage of insults and accusations
that have been thrown my way in the last few days? :-(
What you call "twisted logic" is IMO usually a case of people being unable
or unwilling to accept that my viewpoint is a valid one even though it is
different from theirs, and/or being unable or unwilling to accept that a
viewpoint other than their own can even exist. ("How can a reasonable
thinking person NOT support Israel and condemn the Palestinians".)
If I were using twisted logic, I would be saying things like "even a
highly-trained professional who has a job during a recession should happily
accept his salary to be cut to minimum wage", and "the Palestinians should
be happy to be under Israeli occupation, instead of fighting it".
Jeroen
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