Let me add a more serious response after my flippant one:

Gautam:


>Since it was clearly prompted by an argument with another  list-owner, it
smacks of intimidation.

I clearly agree with that.  When only a few members of a group have the
power to kick anyone else out of that group, then they have a special
obligation to avoid even the appearance of impropriety.  While it is
mathematically possible for it just to be a coincidence that a post in
response to Jeroen was picked out, I don't seriously believe it was a
coincidence.  Does anyone else?

I find it especially bothersome that it happened within a couple of days of
Jeroen's "itchy finger" post.  If he did contact Ms. Tan, then he
technically, _he_ isn't threatening to kick JDG off.  But if he did push the
absentee list owner to do it, then that would be even worse.  Where I come
from, grown ups do their own dirty work.

>But I would not accept, and would not participate in, a forum that demanded
limitations on opinion >speech.  I picked where I went to _college_ based
partly on that, I'm certainly not
> going to be in an internet discussion group that limits itself in such a
> way.

I agree with that, but have a caveat.  JDG's writings were clearly opinion
speech.  The writings of poster from the past that Julia referred to, was
not. Repeated obscene insults need not be protected speech.

>If someone chooses to call Jeroen a Nazi, that's their business, and
> it's not okay to censor them for it.  Ever.  Etiquette is etiquette - one
> of the things that is implied by etiquette is that it is enforceable only
> through social sanction.

Right.  and enforcing etiquette via social sanctions has worked for years on
the list.  If JDG had actually called Jeroen a Nazi,  I would have written a
post suggesting that he should have written what he actually did.

Dan M.

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