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From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: An Interview in Pakistan


> > This sounds to me like contempt for vast numbers of your fellow
citizens.
> >
> Once you engage in polemics, you show (apparent) contempt for large
numbers
> of people.
> One thing that is seldom achieved here (and in many of the links posted
> here) is any semblence of an objective overview. So there ends up a
tendency
> to defend polar arguments without a clear exploration of the issues being
> discussed.
> I've often seen people being dismissive of alternate views. This is where
> much of the (apparent) comtempt for others originates.
>
> xponent
> Smokey The Bear Maru
> rob
>
> There were specific things that happened during that period for which I
_do_
> feel contempt, Rob.  And I should, and I worry about people who don't.
I've
> talked to soldiers who were jeered and cursed when they returned home from
> Vietnam.  Carl Vuono once told me that the worst experience of his life
was
> walking through JFK Airport wearing an Army uniform in the early 1970s.  I
> feel _great_ contempt for the people who did that to them.  I've talked to
> people who watched their fellow Americans - people who don't deserve that
> appellation - burn American flags.  I feel contempt for the people who did
> that, and I'm not in the least ashamed to admit it.  Why should I be?
> During the 1970s the American government was involved in Cambodia, and it
> was involved in supporting the side that was _fighting_ the Khmer Rouge.
We
> were forced out - not because we lost, but because our own population made
> it untenable for the American government to continue that support.  I
> understand and sympathize with the belief that we should not have been
> involved - I don't agree, but I can understand why someone would feel that
> way.  Again, a difference in perspective.  But I don't, at all, have
> sympathy for the attitude, expressed 25 years later, that the people who
> advocated supporting those fighting the Khmer Rouge were immoral because
> they chose to do that, or because the people with whom they were working
> were insufficiently good.  You can argue about the wisdom of that or not -
> but saying that it was immoral is largely, to my mind, a way of making
> yourself feel better - most often it's a way of avoiding the guilt
> associated with forcing us out fo Cambodia.  Guilt that is, well, earned,
in
> my opinion.
>
> Gautam
>
Hold on big guy!  I wasnt pointing a finger at you.
I was responding to Nicks one sentence. One that stood out, for me, among
all the others.
I should point out that no one involved in these discussions is very
objective and most are polemic. This isnt neccessarily a bad thing, but if
one is not careful, it can be divisive.

xponent
Not Getting Involved With This Maru
rob

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