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> Van: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: woensdag 3 april 2002 17:46
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp: Re: Strong Words for Jeroen

> Jeroen, you wrote:
> 
> "IOW, Israel should be Lebensraum for their people, and their people
> only. Sounds vaguely familiar..."
> 
> Why did you use the German word lebensraum which has connotations of
> the holocaust in a discussion about Israel?  This is an English
> speaking forum, the discussion was about the middle east where no one
> speaks German, and you are Dutch.

Yeah, so? Other non-German people have used the word "Lebensraum" in their
posts. Some people use other German words (such as "angst" and
"gedankenexperiment") on this list, even though those people are not German
themselves. Heck, some people even use *Latin* on this list, even though
none of them have Latin as their first language and this is not a Latin
speaking list.

The Great Brin-L Archive currently contains 9 messages that have the word
"lebensraum" in them, 8 messages with the word "lebensraum" and 188 (!)
messages with the word "angst". Why do I not hear people complaining about
other posters using non-English words?

BTW, the Archive is not complete yet, and messages posted after March 27,
2002 have not yet been added to the Archive. When included, the number of
messages containing the word "lebensraum" will be approx. twice as high.


> Why use a German word (and add "sounds vaguely familiar) if you were
> not striking a comparison between the Nazis and the Israelis?

But I was making a comparison! I was pointing out that both have an
identical goal: a place for their own people (and only their own people) to
live. The problem is that, despite the fact that I have repeatedly explained
what I meant, some people still continue to delude themselves by seeing
things that are not there.


Jeroen

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