----- Original Message ----- From: "Reggie Bautista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:32 AM Subject: RE: Strong Words for Jeroen
> Marvin wrote: > > >The problem with the comparison is that the Nazi version of Lebensraum > > > included a mandate to exterminate all non-Aryan people, most notably > > > Jews, to accomplish that goal. The comparison therefore implies Israel > > > has resolved as a founding principle to exterminate all non-Jews in the > > > Holy Land. > > > > > > That's how language works, whatever your actual intent. > >Jeroen replied (in part): > >I have repeatedly explained that I was only pointing out a common goal (a > >place to live). I have also explicitly stated that I am not comparing > >*actions* but only the common *goal*. > > > > But (and please someone correct me if I'm wrong) the goal of the Nazis was > to have a place of their own that was only for them and for no one else. > Israel doesn't mind having a fairly large Arab minority (I think 20% was the > figure I saw in an earlier post), and if their land area gets bigger, that > minority will probably grow along with them. > > So the Nazi goal in a place for Aryans and only Aryans, but the Israeli goal > is a place for all Israeli citizens, Jewish or otherwise. The other point worth noting is that it was retention of Israel proper, not the occupied territories that's being discussed. Israel offered an agreement that gave up virtually all of the occupied territories. It was turned down because converting Israel into a Palestinian state is the goal of the Palestinians. Dan M.
