At 10:12 30-04-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote:

> > As I have said before, those pages would show the misbehavior of people
> > towards other members, not just towards me (although I still believe I
> > could fill a few megabytes of webspace with just that).
>
>I don't buy that.  You are the only person who shows an interest

Yeah, so? That is no reason not to display misbehaviour towards other 
Brinellers. I remember that a few years ago people got kind of fed up with 
JDG starting yet another "Abortion" thread, but that did not stop him from 
bringing up the subject over and over again.


> > The purpose of those pages would be twofold. First, it might encourage
> > people to keep their behavior civilized when they know their misbehavior
> > will become a matter of public record.
>
>Well, look at the posts that are made in response.  To put it bluntly, there
>appears to be exactly one active poster who would consider such a record
>seriously: you.  Indeed, several posters have stated that they consider it a
>mark of favorable behavior to be put on that list. You need to realize, as
>the person who gets into scrapes with more people than anyone else, you are
>probably the least likely candidate to put up a webpage of shame.

Well... then you do it.


> > Second, it will give others an  indication about the extent to which a
> > poster is to be taken seriously. Someone with a spotless record can be
> > taken seriously, but someone whose record measures hundreds of kilobytes
> > or more is likely to be someone to stay away from, since that person is
> > likely to just start another flame war when someone disagrees with him.
>
>Well, from what you've written, it appears that you will include people who,
>in my opinion, have written some of the best posts on the list as people who
>cannot be taken seriously

If those people have engaged in false accusations, insults, slander, 
namecalling, and other such undesirable behaviour, then yes, they will be 
included. For example, Gautam may have written some excellent posts in the 
past, but that is no reason to NOT include his statement that I am living 
in a paranoid fantasy world.


>In short, there is no indication at all that anyone but you would take this
>web site very seriously.  Further, this is a dangerous type of behavior.  It
>leads you away from community and forging consensus towards obsessing on how
>you were hurt.  Yes, you may dress it up with other examples, but the idea
>of providing an objective record of shame just doesn't hold water.  I
>strongly suggest that, for your own sake, you think more about forging bonds
>to the other people on the list instead of concentrating on when you think
>they misbehaved.

I find it interesting to see that among the people most opposed to it are 
the ones who are most likely to make it onto that list...


Jeroen

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