What I find amazing is that _all_ (and I mean ALL) long
discussions/rants/argument/etc on this list involve Jeroen as the
argumentive heavy. They center around beating some sense into Jeroen.  Why
are everyone's arrows always pointed in that direction? Lately, it is
becoming comical to watch Jeroen argue for ....well, for arguing's sake.
Even more comical is how NOTHING we (notice I say we, as in 'we against
Jeroen') say has any effect, other than to give Jeroen more crap to argue
about ( "Ummmm, I would like to buy an argument"). The classic antagonist,
which fits well culturally for us Americans to want to just bash the crap
out of - where every antagonist in every story, movie, and tv show is a
certified asshole. Don't blame us Jeroen... we were raised to behave this
way. I don't see it changing soon.  


I see so few arguments between people other than Jeroen. If there are
arguments between others, they are short lived, and generally do not
antagonize every person on the list. I think John G. has held his tongue
because he has seen that it is pointless to argue with Jeroen. 

After this, _I_ am going to stop arguing with Jeroen as well. There's no
point, and is a useless exercise of my typing skills. 

> 
> It is my opinion that by
> a) repeatedly and unapologetically threatening list members 
> (how many times 
> does this make, has anyone kept count?)
> and b) announcing that he is constructing a web site in which 
> our posts will 
> be taken out of context and attacked according to a 
> self-imposed standard,
> that Jeroen is overstepping himself as a ListOwner/Moderator.

Yeah.... Moderator... Riiiiiiight! He sure 'Moderates' the list, doesn't he?
The list climate is always so moderate after Jeroen speaks...isn't it. His
influence is so 'calming'. The voice of Reason, Fairness and Goodwill. 

Jeroen (or Julia), you have my permission to 'moderate' me off the list if
you so feel I am a disruptive member of this list. I could use a sip of
self-rightousness about now. This list has become the 'Jeroen' list. In some
ways, I wish I was kicked off the list, for I tire of Jeroen being the
center of every conflict. 

NERRRRRRRD FROM HELLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!



> 
> Jon
> 
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