> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chad Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: woensdag 1 mei 2002 0:32 > Aan: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Onderwerp: RE: And here we go again.
> What I find amazing is that _all_ (and I mean ALL) long > discussions/rants/argument/etc on this list involve Jeroen as the > argumentive heavy. They center around beating some sense into Jeroen. Excuse me? Beating some sense into me? Exactly what do you (plural) hope to accomplish by launching attack after attack because I refuse to see other people's views as totally correct and admit my views are totally wrong? <Sarcasm> Oh wait, now I understand! I am supposed to blindly accept as gospel anything Americans say! How stupid of me not to recognise that earlier! How stupid of me not to recognise that you people are entirely correct when you say Israel's agression is totally justified, and that you are entirely correct when you label all of Europe anti-Semitic because of a few incidents. </Sarcasm> > Lately, it is becoming comical to watch Jeroen argue for ....well, for > arguing's sake. No, I am arguing because I feel I need to defend myself against the insults and personal attacks certain members keep throwing at me (especially since very few people other care enough to counter those attacks). > Even more comical is how NOTHING we (notice I say we, as in 'we against > Jeroen') say has any effect, What effect do you expect from insults and slander? Do you expect me to just shut up so people like you can continue to throw wild accusations around without them being questioned? I get the impression that that is exactly what some people want. > I see so few arguments between people other than Jeroen. If there are > arguments between others, they are short lived, and generally do not > antagonize every person on the list. I think John G. has held his > tongue because he has seen that it is pointless to argue with Jeroen. Either that, or he has finally come to realise that his views might actually be wrong... (I could of course explain it as "he is working on the _Glory Season_ summary", but I have kind of given up hope on that.) > After this, _I_ am going to stop arguing with Jeroen as well. There's > no point, and is a useless exercise of my typing skills. If you define arguing as "attacking", then there is indeed no point in arguing, since I will continue to fight any unwarranted attack. > > It is my opinion that by > > a) repeatedly and unapologetically threatening list members (how many > > times does this make, has anyone kept count?) and b) announcing that > > he is constructing a web site in which our posts will be taken out of > > context and attacked according to a self-imposed standard, that > > Jeroen is overstepping himself as a ListOwner/Moderator. > > Yeah.... Moderator... Riiiiiiight! He sure 'Moderates' the list, > doesn't he? The list climate is always so moderate after Jeroen > speaks...isn't it. Guess you need to find yourself a dictionary to look up the meaning of the word "moderator" in relation to Internet discussion groups... I should also point out that the climate gets less-than-moderate only when people ressort to all kinds of accusations without bothering to actually provide *proof* for them. You should not expect me to just do nothing when I get attacked over and over again. > His influence is so 'calming'. The voice of Reason, Fairness and > Goodwill. So, you consider the continuous attacks by other listmembers to be completely reasonable, fair and a display of good will? > This list has become the 'Jeroen' list. More precisely, the Jeroen-bashing list. :-( > In some ways, I wish I was kicked off the list, Nobody is going to kick you off, but you can always leave if you do not want to be here anymore (see the Administrative FAQ on www.Brin-L.com). > for I tire of Jeroen being the center of every conflict. Oh, now I understand! YOU want to be in the center of attention! :-) Well, believe me, it is not all it is cracked up to be. :-) Jeroen _________________________________________________________________________ Wonderful World of Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com Tom's Photo Gallery: http://tom.vanbaardwijk.com
