----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Harney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: Free speech.


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Free speech.
>
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> > >From: "Michael Harney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Free speech.
> > >Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:05:32 -0600
> > >
> > >I think this is both interesting and relivant.  These are the rules for
> the
> > >discussion boards at http://www.freespeech.org :
> >
> > I'm going to break this down:
> >
> > >You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this
> BB
> > >to post any material which is
> > knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate,
> > >abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, threatening, invasive of
a
> > >person's privacy,
> >
> > I see serious possible problems with defined values of "Vulgar" and
> > "Obscene" although I personally don't have a problem with the others.
> >
> > >OFF TOPIC,
> >
> > This one wouldn't last 10 seconds.... how many on-topic conversations do
> we
> > ever really have here? :-)
> >
> > >dumb,
> >
> > I suppose I would never be able to post then ;-)
> >
> > >or otherwise violative of any
> > >US(COLORADO) law.
> >
> > This one's a minefield.  I would eliminate any such obligations for an
> > international list unless absolutely necessary.
> >
> > >You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the
> > >copyright is owned by you or by this BB.
> >
> > Again, this one's a problem as well.  No one could cut and paste
excerpted
> > or whole online newspaper articles, just links.
>
> I copied those rules verbatim.  I suggested we adopt *similar* guidelines,
> not those guidelines exactly.  Things about posts being Off-topic, well, I
> think it was declared long ago that nothing is off topic on this list.  As
> for dumb, that term is too subjective, so it can be discarded as well.  If
> you want to expand definitions of subjective words like obscene and
vulgar,
> and establish guidelines for those, we can do that as well.  As for
posting
> of Copyrighted material... Copyrighted material should not be posted to
the
> list unless you have permission of the Copyright holder.  properly cited,
> small excerpts of copyrighted material being posted is usually fine, but
> copyright laws are serious business.
>
We already had this argument a couple of months ago Michael.
And unless everyone changes their minds about the lists guidelines, you are
likely to be outvoted by quite a margin.

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